1
00:00:58,990 --> 00:00:17,180
[Music]

2
00:01:27,980 --> 00:00:59,000
so

3
00:02:03,990 --> 00:01:42,960
[Music]

4
00:02:09,270 --> 00:02:06,389
greetings and salutations friends today

5
00:02:11,589 --> 00:02:09,280
uh we're going to be taking a

6
00:02:13,830 --> 00:02:11,599
road off the beaten track for our show

7
00:02:15,510 --> 00:02:13,840
and talking about some things concerning

8
00:02:17,270 --> 00:02:15,520
spirituality

9
00:02:19,110 --> 00:02:17,280
some of you know that i consider myself

10
00:02:22,949 --> 00:02:19,120
a recovering catholic

11
00:02:25,350 --> 00:02:22,959
and one of the religions that i found

12
00:02:26,550 --> 00:02:25,360
trying to find a better fit for myself

13
00:02:30,390 --> 00:02:26,560
once i left

14
00:02:33,430 --> 00:02:30,400
the catholic church was buddhism

15
00:02:36,790 --> 00:02:33,440
something about solo practitioning

16
00:02:37,990 --> 00:02:36,800
really appealed to me the meditation

17
00:02:40,070 --> 00:02:38,000
and the things i learned about

18
00:02:42,790 --> 00:02:40,080
meditation uh through

19
00:02:46,710 --> 00:02:42,800
buddhism have been tremendously

20
00:02:50,229 --> 00:02:49,270
throughout my own study i sought out

21
00:02:52,710 --> 00:02:50,239
different teachers

22
00:02:53,270 --> 00:02:52,720
attended lectures there's many places

23
00:02:55,589 --> 00:02:53,280
around

24
00:02:58,149 --> 00:02:55,599
where i lived in the philadelphia area

25
00:03:00,710 --> 00:02:58,159
the shambhala center being probably uh

26
00:03:01,990 --> 00:03:00,720
the most popular where you can go and

27
00:03:04,309 --> 00:03:02,000
hear

28
00:03:06,149 --> 00:03:04,319
buddhist monks come and give guest

29
00:03:08,949 --> 00:03:06,159
lectures

30
00:03:13,830 --> 00:03:08,959
but still i was left with many questions

31
00:03:18,949 --> 00:03:16,869
came from my upbringing as a christian

32
00:03:20,949 --> 00:03:18,959
and the belief in an all-powerful

33
00:03:23,990 --> 00:03:20,959
creator god

34
00:03:25,589 --> 00:03:24,000
and many things that buddhism really did

35
00:03:28,869 --> 00:03:25,599
not address for me

36
00:03:31,350 --> 00:03:28,879
and i was confused and probably

37
00:03:32,869 --> 00:03:31,360
honestly to this day i'm still confused

38
00:03:35,910 --> 00:03:32,879
by some of the

39
00:03:38,789 --> 00:03:35,920
deities surrounding buddhism

40
00:03:39,350 --> 00:03:38,799
and perhaps the relationship to hindu

41
00:03:42,550 --> 00:03:39,360
gods

42
00:03:45,990 --> 00:03:45,670
and so you know i thought it would be

43
00:03:49,589 --> 00:03:46,000
better

44
00:03:51,430 --> 00:03:49,599
if i had someone that was

45
00:03:52,710 --> 00:03:51,440
certainly i believe a lot more

46
00:03:54,630 --> 00:03:52,720
knowledgeable than me

47
00:03:55,830 --> 00:03:54,640
i've heard her talk about these subjects

48
00:03:58,390 --> 00:03:55,840
and different

49
00:03:59,270 --> 00:03:58,400
uh deities involved in buddhism on her

50
00:04:00,949 --> 00:03:59,280
channel

51
00:04:03,429 --> 00:04:00,959
and and that would be our guest tonight

52
00:04:04,309 --> 00:04:03,439
kelly from explaining esoterica where

53
00:04:06,550 --> 00:04:04,319
she

54
00:04:07,830 --> 00:04:06,560
delves into many of these subjects so

55
00:04:10,470 --> 00:04:07,840
without further ado

56
00:04:11,350 --> 00:04:10,480
we're going to bring her right on here

57
00:04:21,990 --> 00:04:11,360
yeah

58
00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,749
so i have a background just for you

59
00:04:33,110 --> 00:04:30,390
yeah so uh i thought we would start with

60
00:04:35,990 --> 00:04:33,120
a misconception that many people have

61
00:04:38,230 --> 00:04:36,000
about buddhism and i did for some time

62
00:04:40,150 --> 00:04:38,240
before studying it more and that

63
00:04:43,749 --> 00:04:40,160
misconception is that buddhists

64
00:04:45,430 --> 00:04:43,759
are all atheists yeah that is a huge

65
00:04:46,230 --> 00:04:45,440
misconception can you talk a little bit

66
00:04:48,310 --> 00:04:46,240
about that

67
00:04:49,990 --> 00:04:48,320
and and the differences between because

68
00:04:52,390 --> 00:04:50,000
some are

69
00:04:53,590 --> 00:04:52,400
and it's okay to be it's permissible to

70
00:04:56,070 --> 00:04:53,600
be okay

71
00:04:56,870 --> 00:04:56,080
but many aren't and there are also many

72
00:04:59,030 --> 00:04:56,880
people

73
00:05:00,629 --> 00:04:59,040
like myself who consider themselves both

74
00:05:03,110 --> 00:05:00,639
a christian and a buddhist

75
00:05:04,070 --> 00:05:03,120
it blows some people's minds like i

76
00:05:06,150 --> 00:05:04,080
didn't know you

77
00:05:07,990 --> 00:05:06,160
so many people tell me all the time i

78
00:05:10,710 --> 00:05:08,000
didn't know that you could be both

79
00:05:12,310 --> 00:05:10,720
you can't yeah so can you talk about the

80
00:05:14,550 --> 00:05:12,320
atheism misconception

81
00:05:16,070 --> 00:05:14,560
first yes okay so really when it comes

82
00:05:18,070 --> 00:05:16,080
to buddhism

83
00:05:19,189 --> 00:05:18,080
there is a misconception especially here

84
00:05:22,790 --> 00:05:19,199
in the west

85
00:05:24,950 --> 00:05:22,800
um that it's exclusively

86
00:05:27,350 --> 00:05:24,960
a philosophy so i actually had an entire

87
00:05:29,590 --> 00:05:27,360
episode of my show dedicated to this

88
00:05:31,830 --> 00:05:29,600
with the idea of buddhism is a

89
00:05:32,710 --> 00:05:31,840
philosophy but it's also a religion

90
00:05:35,350 --> 00:05:32,720
you have to realize that there are

91
00:05:35,990 --> 00:05:35,360
millions of people that this is their

92
00:05:39,189 --> 00:05:36,000
primary

93
00:05:41,749 --> 00:05:39,199
religion um however there's also

94
00:05:43,670 --> 00:05:41,759
millions of people who look at it

95
00:05:45,830 --> 00:05:43,680
strictly as a philosophy

96
00:05:47,590 --> 00:05:45,840
when it comes to buddha himself he never

97
00:05:49,350 --> 00:05:47,600
specifically said whether or not there

98
00:05:51,670 --> 00:05:49,360
was a god

99
00:05:52,790 --> 00:05:51,680
um instead actually i heard one story

100
00:05:56,070 --> 00:05:52,800
where a

101
00:05:56,550 --> 00:05:56,080
ramen disciple came to him and then and

102
00:05:59,990 --> 00:05:56,560
said

103
00:06:01,110 --> 00:06:00,000
i need to know enlightened father tell

104
00:06:03,909 --> 00:06:01,120
me is there a

105
00:06:05,350 --> 00:06:03,919
is there a god or not and he said and he

106
00:06:07,510 --> 00:06:05,360
said no

107
00:06:09,029 --> 00:06:07,520
there is no god and then that

108
00:06:10,790 --> 00:06:09,039
information went through the town and

109
00:06:12,870 --> 00:06:10,800
everybody rejoiced because now they had

110
00:06:14,710 --> 00:06:12,880
the truth about the reality of god

111
00:06:16,790 --> 00:06:14,720
and then a different disciple came to

112
00:06:17,590 --> 00:06:16,800
him and asked i need to know is there a

113
00:06:19,590 --> 00:06:17,600
god

114
00:06:21,510 --> 00:06:19,600
a few days later and he said yes there

115
00:06:22,390 --> 00:06:21,520
is correct and then there was all this

116
00:06:24,550 --> 00:06:22,400
confusion

117
00:06:26,390 --> 00:06:24,560
and and but the point of the story was

118
00:06:29,749 --> 00:06:26,400
at the end of it he said

119
00:06:31,510 --> 00:06:29,759
that uh whether god exists or not is

120
00:06:33,909 --> 00:06:31,520
immaterial to humans

121
00:06:35,670 --> 00:06:33,919
yeah it doesn't matter whether god

122
00:06:37,749 --> 00:06:35,680
exists or not which was strange to me

123
00:06:40,309 --> 00:06:37,759
because if he was so enlightened

124
00:06:41,189 --> 00:06:40,319
i don't know it just that story strikes

125
00:06:44,469 --> 00:06:41,199
me as odd

126
00:06:47,749 --> 00:06:44,479
because it's a fundamental human

127
00:06:49,189 --> 00:06:47,759
like need i think to know whether god

128
00:06:50,790 --> 00:06:49,199
exists or not that's why there's so many

129
00:06:52,309 --> 00:06:50,800
people are so passionate about their

130
00:06:54,070 --> 00:06:52,319
atheism or passionate about their

131
00:06:54,950 --> 00:06:54,080
religion or their belief in their own

132
00:06:57,909 --> 00:06:54,960
god

133
00:06:58,950 --> 00:06:57,919
right yeah no i i agree with you and i

134
00:07:01,029 --> 00:06:58,960
think that

135
00:07:02,790 --> 00:07:01,039
that is another misconception because

136
00:07:03,589 --> 00:07:02,800
when you look at buddhism as a religion

137
00:07:05,270 --> 00:07:03,599
you can still

138
00:07:07,350 --> 00:07:05,280
use buddhism as your religion and not

139
00:07:10,950 --> 00:07:07,360
believe in god that's the other

140
00:07:12,309 --> 00:07:10,960
layer of it it's the way that i look at

141
00:07:14,469 --> 00:07:12,319
buddhism and maybe this

142
00:07:16,150 --> 00:07:14,479
is what why people get confused is that

143
00:07:18,710 --> 00:07:16,160
it's kind of a frame

144
00:07:19,189 --> 00:07:18,720
that exists there are these specific

145
00:07:22,309 --> 00:07:19,199
pieces

146
00:07:24,550 --> 00:07:22,319
of it that if you're as a philosophy or

147
00:07:26,710 --> 00:07:24,560
as a religion no matter what

148
00:07:28,550 --> 00:07:26,720
um you're going to be familiar with so

149
00:07:31,589 --> 00:07:28,560
that's things like meditation

150
00:07:33,510 --> 00:07:31,599
like chanting

151
00:07:34,790 --> 00:07:33,520
four pillars all of those things those

152
00:07:37,270 --> 00:07:34,800
are all things that are going to make it

153
00:07:41,430 --> 00:07:37,280
that make it a philosophy and a religion

154
00:07:43,110 --> 00:07:41,440
okay so but on can you talk a little bit

155
00:07:44,629 --> 00:07:43,120
about what buddha did say about god

156
00:07:45,589 --> 00:07:44,639
because you're probably more familiar

157
00:07:47,350 --> 00:07:45,599
than me

158
00:07:49,430 --> 00:07:47,360
so the story you told us actually is

159
00:07:51,270 --> 00:07:49,440
accurate there is the story that

160
00:07:52,629 --> 00:07:51,280
he was asked twice and he gave two

161
00:07:55,589 --> 00:07:52,639
different answers so

162
00:07:56,390 --> 00:07:55,599
the general consensus when it comes to

163
00:07:58,629 --> 00:07:56,400
that

164
00:07:59,990 --> 00:07:58,639
is he was get not giving an answer by

165
00:08:02,790 --> 00:08:00,000
saying both yes and no

166
00:08:04,230 --> 00:08:02,800
because he didn't want it to be made

167
00:08:05,830 --> 00:08:04,240
into and he said that people had to find

168
00:08:07,670 --> 00:08:05,840
the answer within themselves

169
00:08:09,189 --> 00:08:07,680
correct that's a bet that's an okay

170
00:08:10,869 --> 00:08:09,199
answer i guess you have to

171
00:08:12,550 --> 00:08:10,879
decide that for yourself a guru can't

172
00:08:13,189 --> 00:08:12,560
tell you if there's god or not you have

173
00:08:15,110 --> 00:08:13,199
to

174
00:08:16,710 --> 00:08:15,120
decide for yourself correct and you also

175
00:08:19,110 --> 00:08:16,720
have to realize that there is a huge

176
00:08:20,629 --> 00:08:19,120
influence on buddhism by both jainism

177
00:08:23,670 --> 00:08:20,639
and hinduism

178
00:08:25,350 --> 00:08:23,680
sure so and basically buddhism kind of

179
00:08:26,869 --> 00:08:25,360
falls in between the two of them if you

180
00:08:27,749 --> 00:08:26,879
really think about it and you kind of

181
00:08:31,270 --> 00:08:27,759
look at them from

182
00:08:33,589 --> 00:08:31,280
a fully pulled back perspective jainism

183
00:08:34,949 --> 00:08:33,599
is very very simplistic

184
00:08:36,070 --> 00:08:34,959
yeah can you explain a little bit about

185
00:08:37,110 --> 00:08:36,080
that for the people who may not be

186
00:08:38,310 --> 00:08:37,120
familiar i think most people are

187
00:08:39,589 --> 00:08:38,320
familiar with hinduism that pre-data

188
00:08:42,630 --> 00:08:39,599
predated

189
00:08:43,190 --> 00:08:42,640
kingdom but what about what about so

190
00:08:45,750 --> 00:08:43,200
gene is

191
00:08:47,509 --> 00:08:45,760
another religion in the region um there

192
00:08:50,870 --> 00:08:47,519
are people that practice it and it

193
00:08:52,070 --> 00:08:50,880
is basically taking that side of

194
00:08:53,030 --> 00:08:52,080
buddhism where

195
00:08:54,550 --> 00:08:53,040
because when you look at the four

196
00:08:55,350 --> 00:08:54,560
pillars we've talked about right that

197
00:08:58,949 --> 00:08:55,360
first pillar

198
00:09:00,710 --> 00:08:58,959
is basically in a nutshell in summary

199
00:09:03,509 --> 00:09:00,720
everything life is suffering no matter

200
00:09:05,430 --> 00:09:03,519
what you're gonna suffer right

201
00:09:07,509 --> 00:09:05,440
jane that that idea actually kind of

202
00:09:10,630 --> 00:09:07,519
comes from jainism

203
00:09:13,590 --> 00:09:10,640
in that it's very um

204
00:09:14,949 --> 00:09:13,600
it's about having nothing buddhism is

205
00:09:15,750 --> 00:09:14,959
you're going to be a vegetarian you're

206
00:09:17,509 --> 00:09:15,760
going to respect

207
00:09:19,030 --> 00:09:17,519
life you're not going to destroy things

208
00:09:23,430 --> 00:09:19,040
you're going to be peaceful

209
00:09:24,790 --> 00:09:23,440
jainism is we want you to have nothing

210
00:09:26,630 --> 00:09:24,800
you're not not only are you not going to

211
00:09:27,190 --> 00:09:26,640
harm bugs but when you walk down the

212
00:09:29,509 --> 00:09:27,200
street

213
00:09:31,110 --> 00:09:29,519
if you're a full person that it fully

214
00:09:34,389 --> 00:09:31,120
adheres to it or a jane monk

215
00:09:35,990 --> 00:09:34,399
i guess so to speak they'll walk um with

216
00:09:37,190 --> 00:09:36,000
a broom in front of them sweeping the

217
00:09:38,870 --> 00:09:37,200
road in front of them so they don't

218
00:09:40,150 --> 00:09:38,880
accidentally step on a bug

219
00:09:41,990 --> 00:09:40,160
that's how big of a deal there's a

220
00:09:42,949 --> 00:09:42,000
little bit of an extreme belief system

221
00:09:43,990 --> 00:09:42,959
that they have

222
00:09:45,509 --> 00:09:44,000
and there are some that don't wear

223
00:09:46,710 --> 00:09:45,519
clothes that are completely naked and

224
00:09:47,190 --> 00:09:46,720
they're other ones that just dress in

225
00:09:49,190 --> 00:09:47,200
white

226
00:09:51,509 --> 00:09:49,200
so you're taking it to the full extreme

227
00:09:54,470 --> 00:09:51,519
so buddha in his journey

228
00:09:55,910 --> 00:09:54,480
was original right so he was originally

229
00:09:56,150 --> 00:09:55,920
okay i'm sorry i don't want to interrupt

230
00:09:59,269 --> 00:09:56,160
you

231
00:10:02,870 --> 00:09:59,279
we have a little bit of an echo over

232
00:10:04,949 --> 00:10:02,880
sorry about that um so when it came

233
00:10:06,949 --> 00:10:04,959
in buddha's life he was born as a prince

234
00:10:09,190 --> 00:10:06,959
in india

235
00:10:10,389 --> 00:10:09,200
um and had everything had everything he

236
00:10:12,949 --> 00:10:10,399
wanted however money

237
00:10:14,550 --> 00:10:12,959
had all possessions but it was not aware

238
00:10:16,069 --> 00:10:14,560
that other people were suffering he

239
00:10:16,550 --> 00:10:16,079
lived in the palace and never really

240
00:10:19,350 --> 00:10:16,560
left

241
00:10:20,790 --> 00:10:19,360
this is the general story that gets told

242
00:10:22,150 --> 00:10:20,800
one day he wanted to see what was

243
00:10:25,269 --> 00:10:22,160
outside the palace

244
00:10:27,350 --> 00:10:25,279
so his father the king basically ordered

245
00:10:30,829 --> 00:10:27,360
all the poor people all the sick

246
00:10:31,829 --> 00:10:30,839
basically yeah this is a crazy story

247
00:10:33,590 --> 00:10:31,839
yeah hidden

248
00:10:35,509 --> 00:10:33,600
um in a part of the city and not let the

249
00:10:36,630 --> 00:10:35,519
prince go there to see that people did

250
00:10:39,110 --> 00:10:36,640
suffer

251
00:10:40,790 --> 00:10:39,120
um he did unfortunately see it and with

252
00:10:42,710 --> 00:10:40,800
that even though he was married and he

253
00:10:45,829 --> 00:10:42,720
had a child

254
00:10:48,230 --> 00:10:45,839
left um and then vk and then

255
00:10:49,990 --> 00:10:48,240
basically went he wasn't necessarily a

256
00:10:51,509 --> 00:10:50,000
jane for a period of time but he went in

257
00:10:52,710 --> 00:10:51,519
that direction where he went to the

258
00:10:54,710 --> 00:10:52,720
extreme

259
00:10:56,710 --> 00:10:54,720
and the self-immolation and that kind of

260
00:10:58,630 --> 00:10:56,720
stuff liberty wasn't eating

261
00:11:00,550 --> 00:10:58,640
and he lost a ton of weight and it was

262
00:11:03,030 --> 00:11:00,560
this huge thing until you know the whole

263
00:11:04,949 --> 00:11:03,040
he sat under the body tree and realized

264
00:11:06,310 --> 00:11:04,959
that's not the right way to do it it's

265
00:11:08,389 --> 00:11:06,320
not having nothing

266
00:11:10,150 --> 00:11:08,399
but it's also not having everything you

267
00:11:10,710 --> 00:11:10,160
have to find that in between but also

268
00:11:11,990 --> 00:11:10,720
realize

269
00:11:14,150 --> 00:11:12,000
yeah maybe that's where the concept of

270
00:11:15,350 --> 00:11:14,160
the middle road comes from right

271
00:11:17,350 --> 00:11:15,360
and that is where the concept of the

272
00:11:19,350 --> 00:11:17,360
middle road comes from it's taking

273
00:11:20,470 --> 00:11:19,360
it's making sure you stay in the middle

274
00:11:22,389 --> 00:11:20,480
but also you know

275
00:11:24,470 --> 00:11:22,399
not doing anything too crazy because

276
00:11:25,829 --> 00:11:24,480
when people

277
00:11:27,430 --> 00:11:25,839
there are two different ways to look at

278
00:11:28,389 --> 00:11:27,440
it buddhism can be seen as very

279
00:11:31,509 --> 00:11:28,399
restrictive

280
00:11:34,069 --> 00:11:31,519
when you say oh you can't eat meat

281
00:11:35,590 --> 00:11:34,079
but the thing is is that but i know i

282
00:11:37,910 --> 00:11:35,600
know so many people that are into

283
00:11:41,910 --> 00:11:37,920
buddhism and meditation and still do

284
00:11:43,750 --> 00:11:41,920
yeah myself for example you know yeah

285
00:11:46,310 --> 00:11:43,760
and i had a buddhist monk tell me

286
00:11:47,430 --> 00:11:46,320
well uh you can't go as far in your

287
00:11:50,949 --> 00:11:47,440
meditation

288
00:11:52,550 --> 00:11:50,959
or in your life path if you eat meat uh

289
00:11:53,990 --> 00:11:52,560
but you can still practice or something

290
00:11:55,670 --> 00:11:54,000
like that so i kind of

291
00:11:57,110 --> 00:11:55,680
you know i don't know i tried

292
00:11:58,710 --> 00:11:57,120
vegetarianism for like

293
00:12:00,470 --> 00:11:58,720
a year i lived with a girl who was

294
00:12:01,910 --> 00:12:00,480
vegetarian it was just easier

295
00:12:03,750 --> 00:12:01,920
she's going to cook every day i'll just

296
00:12:06,470 --> 00:12:03,760
eat vegetarian meals

297
00:12:07,670 --> 00:12:06,480
but eventually i i had to go back i just

298
00:12:09,750 --> 00:12:07,680
just couldn't do it

299
00:12:11,350 --> 00:12:09,760
it's not easy i'll be honest with you

300
00:12:12,389 --> 00:12:11,360
and the thing is is that if you actually

301
00:12:15,269 --> 00:12:12,399
speak to

302
00:12:16,069 --> 00:12:15,279
a monk well because here's the other

303
00:12:18,790 --> 00:12:16,079
thing

304
00:12:20,310 --> 00:12:18,800
that we that we kind of glazed over but

305
00:12:21,910 --> 00:12:20,320
when it comes to buddhism there's also

306
00:12:24,870 --> 00:12:21,920
different

307
00:12:26,710 --> 00:12:24,880
denominations of buddhism right yeah

308
00:12:28,470 --> 00:12:26,720
there's different sex different beliefs

309
00:12:29,990 --> 00:12:28,480
sure correct so really you're like

310
00:12:31,829 --> 00:12:30,000
christianity there's a big

311
00:12:33,350 --> 00:12:31,839
span of christianity from latter-day

312
00:12:35,910 --> 00:12:33,360
saints to

313
00:12:36,389 --> 00:12:35,920
christian fundamentalists to catholics

314
00:12:38,790 --> 00:12:36,399
yeah

315
00:12:40,230 --> 00:12:38,800
and they each have their own different

316
00:12:42,790 --> 00:12:40,240
slight differences

317
00:12:45,030 --> 00:12:42,800
exactly the way i would look at buddhism

318
00:12:47,110 --> 00:12:45,040
because the two main types of buddhism

319
00:12:48,949 --> 00:12:47,120
are theraveda which is the traditional

320
00:12:51,350 --> 00:12:48,959
this is what buddha taught

321
00:12:53,670 --> 00:12:51,360
these are his words and mahayana which

322
00:12:56,790 --> 00:12:53,680
is more of an interpretation of what he

323
00:12:58,949 --> 00:12:56,800
taught more people craft as mahayana but

324
00:13:01,750 --> 00:12:58,959
under mahayana

325
00:13:03,350 --> 00:13:01,760
follows all those other sects so you're

326
00:13:04,550 --> 00:13:03,360
looking at pure land buddhism you're

327
00:13:07,110 --> 00:13:04,560
looking at

328
00:13:09,190 --> 00:13:07,120
tibetan buddhism all of those fall under

329
00:13:10,310 --> 00:13:09,200
the mahayana umbrella so to zen buddhism

330
00:13:11,750 --> 00:13:10,320
technically

331
00:13:12,790 --> 00:13:11,760
so really you're looking at their veda

332
00:13:14,150 --> 00:13:12,800
if you're looking at this from a

333
00:13:15,509 --> 00:13:14,160
christian's perspective and you kind of

334
00:13:16,949 --> 00:13:15,519
want to do a comparison

335
00:13:18,829 --> 00:13:16,959
you would think of theravada kind of

336
00:13:22,069 --> 00:13:18,839
like um

337
00:13:24,870 --> 00:13:22,079
catholicism and then

338
00:13:26,389 --> 00:13:24,880
like all of the other types of yeah

339
00:13:29,190 --> 00:13:26,399
they're called the protestant religions

340
00:13:30,710 --> 00:13:29,200
yeah and then there's also so that's a

341
00:13:32,389 --> 00:13:30,720
good way to kind of look at it when it

342
00:13:33,750 --> 00:13:32,399
comes to the divinities you can also do

343
00:13:34,949 --> 00:13:33,760
that same kind of thing looking at the

344
00:13:36,310 --> 00:13:34,959
divinities but we don't have to get

345
00:13:37,990 --> 00:13:36,320
there yet i don't want to jump too far

346
00:13:40,150 --> 00:13:38,000
ahead

347
00:13:41,829 --> 00:13:40,160
excuse me i'm just a stupid monkey

348
00:13:43,829 --> 00:13:41,839
trying to understand this and listen i

349
00:13:46,150 --> 00:13:43,839
appreciate you doing this because

350
00:13:47,030 --> 00:13:46,160
even reading books about this stuff just

351
00:13:51,189 --> 00:13:47,040
gets

352
00:13:51,990 --> 00:13:51,199
these deity names and different you're

353
00:13:53,350 --> 00:13:52,000
right there's

354
00:13:55,509 --> 00:13:53,360
as far as the duties all these different

355
00:13:55,829 --> 00:13:55,519
beliefs and i try to get my brain around

356
00:13:57,990 --> 00:13:55,839
it

357
00:13:59,670 --> 00:13:58,000
and i think the biggest problem that i

358
00:14:01,509 --> 00:13:59,680
have is that they don't

359
00:14:03,670 --> 00:14:01,519
no to my knowledge i could be wrong you

360
00:14:04,389 --> 00:14:03,680
can correct me but no buddhist sector

361
00:14:06,710 --> 00:14:04,399
belief

362
00:14:09,509 --> 00:14:06,720
system really believes in a creator god

363
00:14:12,629 --> 00:14:09,519
or talks about a creator god much

364
00:14:15,990 --> 00:14:12,639
right and see

365
00:14:18,310 --> 00:14:16,000
20 years of scripture studying catholic

366
00:14:20,150 --> 00:14:18,320
priests i i was educated by priests

367
00:14:22,470 --> 00:14:20,160
brothers and nuns you know

368
00:14:23,350 --> 00:14:22,480
every day of my life so that was sort of

369
00:14:25,750 --> 00:14:23,360
just

370
00:14:27,430 --> 00:14:25,760
an accepted you know the all-powerful

371
00:14:29,910 --> 00:14:27,440
god created the earth and

372
00:14:31,350 --> 00:14:29,920
genesis whether you believe that as

373
00:14:34,230 --> 00:14:31,360
literal or just uh

374
00:14:35,829 --> 00:14:34,240
store you know but i just can't get my

375
00:14:39,030 --> 00:14:35,839
brain around the fact that they didn't

376
00:14:45,189 --> 00:14:42,150
creator god that created the world

377
00:14:46,790 --> 00:14:45,199
well i mean there is the idea of i mean

378
00:14:50,389 --> 00:14:46,800
the world obviously being

379
00:14:51,829 --> 00:14:50,399
created by i think the best way to

380
00:14:52,790 --> 00:14:51,839
compare it and i know this is going to

381
00:14:54,150 --> 00:14:52,800
sound crazy

382
00:14:56,230 --> 00:14:54,160
or not crazy but it's going to sound

383
00:14:57,509 --> 00:14:56,240
woo-woo because when you look at the

384
00:15:00,150 --> 00:14:57,519
spiritual

385
00:15:01,430 --> 00:15:00,160
people who like the new agey people and

386
00:15:03,189 --> 00:15:01,440
they talk about source

387
00:15:05,590 --> 00:15:03,199
and going back to source that source our

388
00:15:06,310 --> 00:15:05,600
stores yeah that's a good explanation

389
00:15:08,470 --> 00:15:06,320
actually

390
00:15:10,710 --> 00:15:08,480
yeah they do believe in all they believe

391
00:15:12,629 --> 00:15:10,720
in and sort of the power of nature

392
00:15:14,310 --> 00:15:12,639
and their gods but there's a god in the

393
00:15:16,230 --> 00:15:14,320
river there's a god in the waterfall

394
00:15:21,030 --> 00:15:16,240
there's a god in the

395
00:15:22,389 --> 00:15:21,040
and it's all tied together so the idea

396
00:15:26,389 --> 00:15:22,399
is that when you

397
00:15:28,629 --> 00:15:26,399
achieve release from samsara when you

398
00:15:30,710 --> 00:15:28,639
achieve nirvana so to speak and you're

399
00:15:31,350 --> 00:15:30,720
no longer stuck in the reincarnation

400
00:15:34,310 --> 00:15:31,360
cycle

401
00:15:35,430 --> 00:15:34,320
which personally i don't believe this is

402
00:15:36,949 --> 00:15:35,440
just a personal belief

403
00:15:38,310 --> 00:15:36,959
i do believe in reincarnation but i

404
00:15:40,150 --> 00:15:38,320
don't believe it works the way that it

405
00:15:42,389 --> 00:15:40,160
gets described in buddhism

406
00:15:44,150 --> 00:15:42,399
but that's beyond the point um it's just

407
00:15:46,150 --> 00:15:44,160
the way it's described and

408
00:15:47,829 --> 00:15:46,160
i'm doing that ending that cycle that's

409
00:15:48,389 --> 00:15:47,839
another thing that that's another thing

410
00:15:49,910 --> 00:15:48,399
from a

411
00:15:51,590 --> 00:15:49,920
christian perspective that is difficult

412
00:15:54,150 --> 00:15:51,600
to grasp or understand

413
00:15:55,189 --> 00:15:54,160
is that buddhists believe sort of in

414
00:15:57,990 --> 00:15:55,199
this

415
00:16:00,629 --> 00:15:58,000
karmic wheel and and you could you could

416
00:16:02,550 --> 00:16:00,639
have sins or transgressions in this life

417
00:16:03,670 --> 00:16:02,560
and not pay for them but in the next

418
00:16:06,230 --> 00:16:03,680
life you will

419
00:16:08,069 --> 00:16:06,240
okay and then and then again christians

420
00:16:11,829 --> 00:16:08,079
we're generally you're one and done

421
00:16:13,749 --> 00:16:11,839
so yeah so yes i mean

422
00:16:15,749 --> 00:16:13,759
but i'm all for reincarnation because i

423
00:16:18,230 --> 00:16:15,759
don't know i maybe i'm feeling mortal

424
00:16:20,949 --> 00:16:18,240
lately but i think that one go around

425
00:16:22,790 --> 00:16:20,959
you can't possibly absorb all of the

426
00:16:24,389 --> 00:16:22,800
human experience in one lifetime no

427
00:16:27,749 --> 00:16:24,399
matter how hard you try

428
00:16:31,030 --> 00:16:27,759
you can try right but try

429
00:16:32,870 --> 00:16:31,040
yeah but yeah no you're right um so

430
00:16:34,949 --> 00:16:32,880
the idea so back to this whole source

431
00:16:36,710 --> 00:16:34,959
thing is that when you die and you get

432
00:16:38,150 --> 00:16:36,720
out of that whole reincarnation cycle

433
00:16:40,389 --> 00:16:38,160
and you achieve nirvana

434
00:16:41,670 --> 00:16:40,399
where what happens is you end up going

435
00:16:43,749 --> 00:16:41,680
back

436
00:16:45,350 --> 00:16:43,759
to basically that source energy and you

437
00:16:48,829 --> 00:16:45,360
rejoin and you no longer have

438
00:16:50,790 --> 00:16:48,839
individuality and you kind of join the

439
00:16:52,629 --> 00:16:50,800
greater

440
00:16:54,710 --> 00:16:52,639
or energy of the universe that's

441
00:16:57,030 --> 00:16:54,720
basically where the end result is and

442
00:16:59,350 --> 00:16:57,040
that's what you're trying to do

443
00:17:00,470 --> 00:16:59,360
um this seems to be a recurrent theme in

444
00:17:03,670 --> 00:17:00,480
buddhism too to

445
00:17:04,870 --> 00:17:03,680
uh to divorce yourself or release

446
00:17:08,230 --> 00:17:04,880
yourself from

447
00:17:09,510 --> 00:17:08,240
from uh suffering well suffering

448
00:17:12,069 --> 00:17:09,520
attachment

449
00:17:14,069 --> 00:17:12,079
yeah and individuality to see everybody

450
00:17:17,429 --> 00:17:14,079
as as part of the

451
00:17:19,110 --> 00:17:17,439
as part of you you know and that's been

452
00:17:20,230 --> 00:17:19,120
helpful in my life too because you know

453
00:17:21,590 --> 00:17:20,240
sometimes you got to deal with some

454
00:17:23,429 --> 00:17:21,600
pricks in your life

455
00:17:25,270 --> 00:17:23,439
correct you've got to learn to see you

456
00:17:27,669 --> 00:17:25,280
and them or god in them

457
00:17:28,789 --> 00:17:27,679
too and learn to you know understand

458
00:17:31,430 --> 00:17:28,799
it's all

459
00:17:32,950 --> 00:17:31,440
we're all connected in that way yes i

460
00:17:35,110 --> 00:17:32,960
mean if you look at if you think about

461
00:17:36,549 --> 00:17:35,120
it attachment itself right if you say i

462
00:17:38,310 --> 00:17:36,559
want to release attachment

463
00:17:40,310 --> 00:17:38,320
the reason you're releasing attachment

464
00:17:41,830 --> 00:17:40,320
is that is because by having attachments

465
00:17:43,029 --> 00:17:41,840
you're causing yourself suffering

466
00:17:45,590 --> 00:17:43,039
really at the end of the day it all

467
00:17:47,190 --> 00:17:45,600
comes back to that central idea of

468
00:17:48,470 --> 00:17:47,200
you're suffering no matter what you're

469
00:17:50,230 --> 00:17:48,480
going to suffer in this life so you're

470
00:17:52,789 --> 00:17:50,240
trying to put an end to it

471
00:17:55,510 --> 00:17:52,799
yeah that part of this was kind of a

472
00:17:57,510 --> 00:17:55,520
downer to me i know it is a counter

473
00:17:59,350 --> 00:17:57,520
you know honestly i think that i was in

474
00:17:59,990 --> 00:17:59,360
a form of suffering having so many

475
00:18:01,669 --> 00:18:00,000
doubts about

476
00:18:03,190 --> 00:18:01,679
the religion that i grew up with and

477
00:18:05,830 --> 00:18:03,200
just

478
00:18:07,590 --> 00:18:05,840
being real my family was very badly

479
00:18:09,110 --> 00:18:07,600
mistreated by our catholic church

480
00:18:11,029 --> 00:18:09,120
to the point that they would they didn't

481
00:18:12,950 --> 00:18:11,039
want to bury my father because he was

482
00:18:15,510 --> 00:18:12,960
behind in his church envelopes

483
00:18:16,630 --> 00:18:15,520
oh my god and i had a big blowout with

484
00:18:18,789 --> 00:18:16,640
them and you know when i

485
00:18:20,630 --> 00:18:18,799
found buddhism it kind of helped me deal

486
00:18:22,070 --> 00:18:20,640
with anger issues and things like that

487
00:18:24,390 --> 00:18:22,080
but it was a downer to

488
00:18:25,350 --> 00:18:24,400
to realize and and i truly believe that

489
00:18:29,750 --> 00:18:25,360
they were right that

490
00:18:31,830 --> 00:18:29,760
life is all about suffering and our uh

491
00:18:33,029 --> 00:18:31,840
our attempts at escaping it you know

492
00:18:35,510 --> 00:18:33,039
some people try to escape it through

493
00:18:39,190 --> 00:18:35,520
drugs or through alcohol or through uh

494
00:18:41,270 --> 00:18:39,200
unhealthy habits sex addictions whatever

495
00:18:42,950 --> 00:18:41,280
we're all trying to get away from the

496
00:18:43,750 --> 00:18:42,960
feeling of being uncomfortable or that

497
00:18:45,270 --> 00:18:43,760
suffering

498
00:18:48,390 --> 00:18:45,280
but buddhism gives us a better way to

499
00:18:51,669 --> 00:18:48,400
deal with it right correct

500
00:18:53,669 --> 00:18:51,679
um the other thing is is that uh

501
00:18:55,430 --> 00:18:53,679
because i know we had talked briefly a

502
00:18:58,070 --> 00:18:55,440
few moments ago about the middle path

503
00:18:59,430 --> 00:18:58,080
i did just uh remember something and i

504
00:19:01,110 --> 00:18:59,440
wanted to share it

505
00:19:02,789 --> 00:19:01,120
if you're familiar with the tree of life

506
00:19:04,710 --> 00:19:02,799
in kabbalah

507
00:19:06,070 --> 00:19:04,720
yes you know with the circles and the

508
00:19:08,470 --> 00:19:06,080
line

509
00:19:09,590 --> 00:19:08,480
the middle path also is in regards to

510
00:19:14,150 --> 00:19:09,600
that

511
00:19:15,669 --> 00:19:14,160
follow the traditional

512
00:19:18,150 --> 00:19:15,679
ideas of buddhism and what you're

513
00:19:18,789 --> 00:19:18,160
supposed to do it takes you up the

514
00:19:21,830 --> 00:19:18,799
middle

515
00:19:25,190 --> 00:19:21,840
of the kabbalah the tree of life in the

516
00:19:27,510 --> 00:19:25,200
fastest way possible for you to exit

517
00:19:29,270 --> 00:19:27,520
you can take whatever circles and path

518
00:19:31,350 --> 00:19:29,280
you want on the kabbalah but

519
00:19:32,870 --> 00:19:31,360
specif but the idea is that that middle

520
00:19:35,110 --> 00:19:32,880
path it's that middle path it's that

521
00:19:36,710 --> 00:19:35,120
center path in kabbalah

522
00:19:38,710 --> 00:19:36,720
yeah and this is an interesting concept

523
00:19:40,070 --> 00:19:38,720
because you know but i've struggled with

524
00:19:41,990 --> 00:19:40,080
this myself because

525
00:19:43,669 --> 00:19:42,000
you know uh if you if you apply this

526
00:19:45,990 --> 00:19:43,679
middle path to everything

527
00:19:47,909 --> 00:19:46,000
sometimes you can't you know if you're

528
00:19:48,390 --> 00:19:47,919
an alcoholic you can't take the middle

529
00:19:51,430 --> 00:19:48,400
path

530
00:19:51,830 --> 00:19:51,440
and enjoy alcohol sometimes because you

531
00:19:53,830 --> 00:19:51,840
have

532
00:19:55,110 --> 00:19:53,840
an issue with that or or you know drugs

533
00:19:58,230 --> 00:19:55,120
or whatever

534
00:20:00,310 --> 00:19:58,240
but then again it does to some people

535
00:20:02,310 --> 00:20:00,320
it seems that it would apply like to

536
00:20:02,870 --> 00:20:02,320
completely abstain from alcohol if you

537
00:20:05,190 --> 00:20:02,880
like it

538
00:20:07,990 --> 00:20:05,200
is a form of suffering too so maybe the

539
00:20:09,350 --> 00:20:08,000
middle path is better for some but

540
00:20:11,350 --> 00:20:09,360
yeah it was the best way it was

541
00:20:11,669 --> 00:20:11,360
described to me and it makes sense like

542
00:20:15,029 --> 00:20:11,679
now

543
00:20:18,230 --> 00:20:15,039
don't over indulge

544
00:20:20,070 --> 00:20:18,240
but don't don't uh you know

545
00:20:21,590 --> 00:20:20,080
not indulge at all because that could be

546
00:20:24,789 --> 00:20:21,600
a form of suffering as well

547
00:20:27,029 --> 00:20:24,799
i've had monks tell me that it's been if

548
00:20:29,270 --> 00:20:27,039
you can't commit to being a vegetarian

549
00:20:30,310 --> 00:20:29,280
100 of the time if you can commit to

550
00:20:31,830 --> 00:20:30,320
doing it

551
00:20:34,310 --> 00:20:31,840
two days a week yeah a couple days a

552
00:20:36,470 --> 00:20:34,320
week sure that's enough for us

553
00:20:38,549 --> 00:20:36,480
um don't gamble too much don't have too

554
00:20:39,110 --> 00:20:38,559
much sex don't do too many drugs it was

555
00:20:41,909 --> 00:20:39,120
always right

556
00:20:42,549 --> 00:20:41,919
man right back up no too much sex not

557
00:20:45,270 --> 00:20:42,559
too much

558
00:20:46,789 --> 00:20:45,280
that was specifically yeah i'm pretty

559
00:20:49,270 --> 00:20:46,799
sure that i had a monk tell me that too

560
00:20:51,029 --> 00:20:49,280
and i said but uh i'm newly married and

561
00:20:54,310 --> 00:20:51,039
he said well then it's probably okay

562
00:20:55,990 --> 00:20:54,320
or i know actually i said i'm newly

563
00:20:58,230 --> 00:20:56,000
married and we're trying to have a child

564
00:21:00,789 --> 00:20:58,240
and he said well in that case have all

565
00:21:02,390 --> 00:21:00,799
you want go ahead

566
00:21:04,310 --> 00:21:02,400
yeah and that surprised me because he

567
00:21:07,669 --> 00:21:04,320
was such a straight face

568
00:21:09,669 --> 00:21:07,679
serious guy you know yeah

569
00:21:11,990 --> 00:21:09,679
it's i mean it's one of those things it

570
00:21:13,830 --> 00:21:12,000
really is just don't

571
00:21:15,830 --> 00:21:13,840
like you know don't make yourself suffer

572
00:21:17,190 --> 00:21:15,840
but don't go to excess because either

573
00:21:18,630 --> 00:21:17,200
because if you do too much you're going

574
00:21:19,669 --> 00:21:18,640
to suffer if you do too little you're

575
00:21:22,149 --> 00:21:19,679
going to suffer

576
00:21:22,789 --> 00:21:22,159
try to be moderate that's basically the

577
00:21:25,190 --> 00:21:22,799
idea

578
00:21:26,870 --> 00:21:25,200
so that's why it helps a lot back to

579
00:21:27,990 --> 00:21:26,880
this whole idea that we started talking

580
00:21:29,669 --> 00:21:28,000
about the first place of

581
00:21:32,310 --> 00:21:29,679
why it works is the philosophy for

582
00:21:33,909 --> 00:21:32,320
people because it gets them that

583
00:21:35,510 --> 00:21:33,919
it gives them kind of some structure and

584
00:21:37,590 --> 00:21:35,520
some ideas to look at but they're not

585
00:21:39,270 --> 00:21:37,600
committing because buddhism does not

586
00:21:41,270 --> 00:21:39,280
necessarily have a god as we talked

587
00:21:43,270 --> 00:21:41,280
about it can be atheist

588
00:21:44,390 --> 00:21:43,280
it works as a philosophical system so

589
00:21:47,510 --> 00:21:44,400
you can be

590
00:21:49,110 --> 00:21:47,520
a christian who philosophically is a

591
00:21:51,110 --> 00:21:49,120
buddhist

592
00:21:52,710 --> 00:21:51,120
um and vice versa and actually there are

593
00:21:54,789 --> 00:21:52,720
religions that are built entirely upon

594
00:21:56,950 --> 00:21:54,799
that i've also talked about that on my

595
00:21:58,549 --> 00:21:56,960
channel before that yeah i found a group

596
00:22:00,310 --> 00:21:58,559
that is uh that is christian

597
00:22:01,830 --> 00:22:00,320
and buddhist at the same time and that

598
00:22:02,789 --> 00:22:01,840
was interesting to me because i didn't

599
00:22:05,909 --> 00:22:02,799
know there was

600
00:22:08,149 --> 00:22:05,919
that many more of you know kind of me

601
00:22:09,430 --> 00:22:08,159
or how i considered it oh there's a time

602
00:22:11,350 --> 00:22:09,440
there's a time

603
00:22:13,909 --> 00:22:11,360
and yeah and i said before that and i

604
00:22:15,430 --> 00:22:13,919
truly believe this i think that being

605
00:22:17,350 --> 00:22:15,440
learning about buddhism and trying to

606
00:22:20,630 --> 00:22:17,360
practice buddhist principles

607
00:22:22,789 --> 00:22:20,640
made me a better christian and uh

608
00:22:24,470 --> 00:22:22,799
and being a christian i think in some

609
00:22:24,789 --> 00:22:24,480
ways made me a better buddhist because i

610
00:22:28,630 --> 00:22:24,799
had

611
00:22:29,270 --> 00:22:28,640
other perspectives so it's a nice mix

612
00:22:30,789 --> 00:22:29,280
and the two

613
00:22:34,390 --> 00:22:30,799
really go together a lot of people think

614
00:22:36,549 --> 00:22:34,400
jesus studied buddhism in the far east

615
00:22:38,830 --> 00:22:36,559
because the because the philosophies

616
00:22:42,149 --> 00:22:38,840
that he taught are so similar in some

617
00:22:44,470 --> 00:22:42,159
respects yeah i mean there are a lot

618
00:22:46,630 --> 00:22:44,480
of similarities between the two so

619
00:22:47,110 --> 00:22:46,640
that's why it was very easy for me as a

620
00:22:48,630 --> 00:22:47,120
child

621
00:22:50,310 --> 00:22:48,640
even though i wasn't aware that this was

622
00:22:52,390 --> 00:22:50,320
a thing to

623
00:22:54,470 --> 00:22:52,400
really do that to kind of subscribe to

624
00:22:55,669 --> 00:22:54,480
both because i mean i'm only half asian

625
00:22:58,149 --> 00:22:55,679
you have to remember that

626
00:22:59,590 --> 00:22:58,159
my father is caucasian and is there yeah

627
00:23:03,029 --> 00:22:59,600
i think i've heard you say that before

628
00:23:04,390 --> 00:23:03,039
yeah he's christian um so i kind of grew

629
00:23:06,630 --> 00:23:04,400
up you know kind of with that blend

630
00:23:07,909 --> 00:23:06,640
oh one foot in both right in both

631
00:23:09,190 --> 00:23:07,919
because all my friends were also

632
00:23:10,710 --> 00:23:09,200
christians they would invite me to

633
00:23:11,830 --> 00:23:10,720
church so i'd do that but then you know

634
00:23:14,070 --> 00:23:11,840
with my mom go to

635
00:23:15,350 --> 00:23:14,080
the temple learn from the monks so i did

636
00:23:16,710 --> 00:23:15,360
have a foot in both

637
00:23:18,710 --> 00:23:16,720
though i wouldn't say i'm an expert in

638
00:23:19,830 --> 00:23:18,720
christianity i just have exposure to it

639
00:23:21,190 --> 00:23:19,840
so i can tell you

640
00:23:22,390 --> 00:23:21,200
there are some things that are similar

641
00:23:23,190 --> 00:23:22,400
and there are some ideas that are

642
00:23:26,710 --> 00:23:23,200
similar

643
00:23:30,149 --> 00:23:26,720
and they even gave some of um

644
00:23:33,190 --> 00:23:30,159
some lesser known i guess

645
00:23:35,750 --> 00:23:33,200
red text from the bible um of

646
00:23:36,630 --> 00:23:35,760
jesus and showed them to the dalai lama

647
00:23:39,750 --> 00:23:36,640
without saying

648
00:23:42,789 --> 00:23:39,760
that it was from the bible and

649
00:23:44,630 --> 00:23:42,799
um the dalai lama's response was oh this

650
00:23:46,710 --> 00:23:44,640
person seems to be really wise they were

651
00:23:48,630 --> 00:23:46,720
probably a bodhisattva

652
00:23:51,750 --> 00:23:48,640
which then you find which then is jesus

653
00:23:54,230 --> 00:23:51,760
so yes i mean it

654
00:23:55,669 --> 00:23:54,240
it's logical from a buddhist perspective

655
00:23:59,110 --> 00:23:55,679
even to

656
00:23:59,830 --> 00:23:59,120
to recognize christianity you can do

657
00:24:03,029 --> 00:23:59,840
that

658
00:24:03,990 --> 00:24:03,039
so um yeah i mean yeah and coming from a

659
00:24:05,909 --> 00:24:04,000
sort of restrictive

660
00:24:07,590 --> 00:24:05,919
catholic upbringing where they tell you

661
00:24:08,630 --> 00:24:07,600
exactly what you're supposed to do and

662
00:24:11,990 --> 00:24:08,640
think

663
00:24:15,029 --> 00:24:12,000
this level of freedom that they offer

664
00:24:15,590 --> 00:24:15,039
was attractive to me you know like wait

665
00:24:18,310 --> 00:24:15,600
i could be an

666
00:24:19,669 --> 00:24:18,320
atheist if i want to i could be or i

667
00:24:22,149 --> 00:24:19,679
could believe in god and they're not

668
00:24:25,430 --> 00:24:22,159
going to step in and tell me

669
00:24:28,230 --> 00:24:25,440
how to think you know and you know i do

670
00:24:29,669 --> 00:24:28,240
give credit to alan watts

671
00:24:31,510 --> 00:24:29,679
i give him a lot of credit for bringing

672
00:24:33,110 --> 00:24:31,520
that to i mean he wasn't the only person

673
00:24:35,029 --> 00:24:33,120
that kind of brought those ideas and his

674
00:24:38,149 --> 00:24:35,039
philosophies here to the west

675
00:24:39,350 --> 00:24:38,159
but he was a major of them yeah a huge

676
00:24:41,510 --> 00:24:39,360
major contribution

677
00:24:42,789 --> 00:24:41,520
to that movement which i think is great

678
00:24:45,029 --> 00:24:42,799
because it's opened up

679
00:24:46,149 --> 00:24:45,039
a lot of people in the united states and

680
00:24:47,750 --> 00:24:46,159
europe to

681
00:24:49,110 --> 00:24:47,760
the fact that buddhism exists how it

682
00:24:50,630 --> 00:24:49,120
works and also you know other eastern

683
00:24:52,789 --> 00:24:50,640
religions

684
00:24:54,230 --> 00:24:52,799
but i think that there was confusion

685
00:24:56,070 --> 00:24:54,240
because

686
00:24:57,590 --> 00:24:56,080
he specifically called it eastern

687
00:25:00,950 --> 00:24:57,600
philosophy

688
00:25:01,990 --> 00:25:00,960
which then it lost kind of a religious

689
00:25:04,789 --> 00:25:02,000
portion

690
00:25:05,190 --> 00:25:04,799
part of it so then now you know so then

691
00:25:07,190 --> 00:25:05,200
once

692
00:25:08,630 --> 00:25:07,200
you know the larger the asian population

693
00:25:10,950 --> 00:25:08,640
started to get larger

694
00:25:12,870 --> 00:25:10,960
here in the united states after you know

695
00:25:14,149 --> 00:25:12,880
different events that have occurred over

696
00:25:16,310 --> 00:25:14,159
time

697
00:25:18,230 --> 00:25:16,320
um there's been kind of a disconnect

698
00:25:19,190 --> 00:25:18,240
where there's that misunderstanding and

699
00:25:21,269 --> 00:25:19,200
that's why

700
00:25:22,630 --> 00:25:21,279
i've put so much effort into trying to

701
00:25:24,149 --> 00:25:22,640
make that clarification

702
00:25:25,990 --> 00:25:24,159
that it is both because i've gotten into

703
00:25:28,950 --> 00:25:26,000
arguments with people on twitter

704
00:25:30,630 --> 00:25:28,960
on my show in the in the live stream

705
00:25:32,390 --> 00:25:30,640
i've never seen you get an argument with

706
00:25:34,950 --> 00:25:32,400
somebody really you're so nice

707
00:25:36,470 --> 00:25:34,960
really i know i've never seen you that

708
00:25:37,029 --> 00:25:36,480
you're like well at least you handle it

709
00:25:38,710 --> 00:25:37,039
better than

710
00:25:39,990 --> 00:25:38,720
somebody like me because i get pissed

711
00:25:41,029 --> 00:25:40,000
and just start yelling and screaming and

712
00:25:44,230 --> 00:25:41,039
cursing at people

713
00:25:47,430 --> 00:25:44,240
i try not to wait for my show

714
00:25:51,830 --> 00:25:47,440
it's really bad i use my zen and then i

715
00:25:55,269 --> 00:25:53,269
you know one thing that i found

716
00:25:57,830 --> 00:25:55,279
interesting uh

717
00:25:58,710 --> 00:25:57,840
also is that in catholicism they will

718
00:26:01,430 --> 00:25:58,720
tell you

719
00:26:02,070 --> 00:26:01,440
that if you meditate that's sinful if

720
00:26:03,830 --> 00:26:02,080
you read

721
00:26:05,750 --> 00:26:03,840
about the buddha that's sinful because

722
00:26:08,950 --> 00:26:05,760
that's a false god

723
00:26:11,590 --> 00:26:08,960
and uh even yoga to them is sinful

724
00:26:13,350 --> 00:26:11,600
somehow yes i didn't even know that yeah

725
00:26:14,789 --> 00:26:13,360
like you're not allowed to do yoga if

726
00:26:15,350 --> 00:26:14,799
you're catholic because that could lead

727
00:26:17,909 --> 00:26:15,360
to you

728
00:26:18,710 --> 00:26:17,919
you know meditating and that would be

729
00:26:20,750 --> 00:26:18,720
terrible

730
00:26:22,149 --> 00:26:20,760
you know i don't know they're very

731
00:26:23,430 --> 00:26:22,159
authoritarianism

732
00:26:25,269 --> 00:26:23,440
and i know what i liked about the

733
00:26:26,470 --> 00:26:25,279
buddhists that i met i started going to

734
00:26:27,669 --> 00:26:26,480
the shambhala center

735
00:26:30,630 --> 00:26:27,679
around philadelphia where they have

736
00:26:33,909 --> 00:26:30,640
meditation classes and guest lectures

737
00:26:35,029 --> 00:26:33,919
is that everybody was like uh very

738
00:26:37,830 --> 00:26:35,039
welcoming and

739
00:26:39,750 --> 00:26:37,840
nobody was telling you what you can and

740
00:26:41,510 --> 00:26:39,760
can't think or can and can't do

741
00:26:43,269 --> 00:26:41,520
it's just like here's some teachings

742
00:26:45,110 --> 00:26:43,279
that may help your life

743
00:26:46,950 --> 00:26:45,120
and and meditation this is a pr

744
00:26:47,909 --> 00:26:46,960
spiritual practice which may enhance

745
00:26:50,149 --> 00:26:47,919
your life

746
00:26:52,870 --> 00:26:50,159
and we'll teach it to you and uh and the

747
00:26:54,789 --> 00:26:52,880
other thing i really loved is that they

748
00:26:56,310 --> 00:26:54,799
the financial end of it was like they

749
00:26:57,990 --> 00:26:56,320
put a box out

750
00:26:59,909 --> 00:26:58,000
with a slid in it and if you want to

751
00:27:01,430 --> 00:26:59,919
give them 20 bucks for the meditation

752
00:27:02,630 --> 00:27:01,440
class or whatever you feel like giving

753
00:27:04,950 --> 00:27:02,640
them you do

754
00:27:05,669 --> 00:27:04,960
and if you don't have any money nobody

755
00:27:07,590 --> 00:27:05,679
you know

756
00:27:08,710 --> 00:27:07,600
that catholics it's all about the

757
00:27:10,630 --> 00:27:08,720
benjamin's man

758
00:27:12,149 --> 00:27:10,640
it's like they give you they give you

759
00:27:14,470 --> 00:27:12,159
envelopes and then they put

760
00:27:16,310 --> 00:27:14,480
donations on it like twenty five dollars

761
00:27:18,389 --> 00:27:16,320
fifty dollars a hundred dollars and they

762
00:27:20,230 --> 00:27:18,399
actually expect you to at least put the

763
00:27:21,830 --> 00:27:20,240
you know whatever the minimum they say

764
00:27:25,029 --> 00:27:21,840
is every week

765
00:27:27,029 --> 00:27:25,039
yeah it's it's great it's a bracket

766
00:27:29,350 --> 00:27:27,039
you know and i thought i liked when i

767
00:27:31,750 --> 00:27:29,360
went there that it was like well

768
00:27:33,510 --> 00:27:31,760
look we're uh we're a charity we really

769
00:27:35,430 --> 00:27:33,520
are truly a charity so

770
00:27:36,870 --> 00:27:35,440
you know if you want to give us a couple

771
00:27:39,909 --> 00:27:36,880
of dollars to pay for this

772
00:27:42,549 --> 00:27:39,919
building this electric or whatever great

773
00:27:44,310 --> 00:27:42,559
but they were very clear in that if

774
00:27:47,510 --> 00:27:44,320
you're unemployed or a student

775
00:27:50,149 --> 00:27:47,520
or you're tight don't feel obligated and

776
00:27:53,510 --> 00:27:50,159
i was blown away i was like wow

777
00:27:56,470 --> 00:27:53,520
you know what a difference yeah yeah

778
00:27:57,510 --> 00:27:56,480
definitely i mean going to attack going

779
00:27:58,950 --> 00:27:57,520
to temples

780
00:28:01,110 --> 00:27:58,960
you know all my life the buddhist

781
00:28:03,590 --> 00:28:01,120
temples that's kind of how it is

782
00:28:04,149 --> 00:28:03,600
i mean they do have services um people

783
00:28:07,029 --> 00:28:04,159
don't

784
00:28:08,230 --> 00:28:07,039
and people go to the services but it's

785
00:28:12,389 --> 00:28:08,240
not

786
00:28:14,310 --> 00:28:12,399
just go to a temple and walk around and

787
00:28:16,630 --> 00:28:14,320
just kind of take in the sights and

788
00:28:18,470 --> 00:28:16,640
yeah i found one near my new house right

789
00:28:20,230 --> 00:28:18,480
before covert and i was so upset when

790
00:28:21,990 --> 00:28:20,240
cobra hit because i really want to

791
00:28:24,070 --> 00:28:22,000
get to know that place and the people

792
00:28:25,350 --> 00:28:24,080
there they were very inviting and they

793
00:28:28,630 --> 00:28:25,360
had this huge

794
00:28:30,230 --> 00:28:28,640
huge library and the way it works if you

795
00:28:32,389 --> 00:28:30,240
remember there which was so

796
00:28:33,430 --> 00:28:32,399
cheap it's like 20 a year to be a member

797
00:28:34,870 --> 00:28:33,440
or something oh wow

798
00:28:36,149 --> 00:28:34,880
like if you're very interested in the

799
00:28:36,870 --> 00:28:36,159
books in the library they'll just give

800
00:28:38,149 --> 00:28:36,880
you a key

801
00:28:39,750 --> 00:28:38,159
and you know if you want to borrow books

802
00:28:40,549 --> 00:28:39,760
you write down and then you bring them

803
00:28:45,190 --> 00:28:40,559
back

804
00:28:47,590 --> 00:28:45,200
and uh but then coveted and here we are

805
00:28:48,630 --> 00:28:47,600
ten months later so i'm looking forward

806
00:28:50,549 --> 00:28:48,640
to this

807
00:28:52,389 --> 00:28:50,559
all ending so that i can visit that

808
00:28:55,990 --> 00:28:52,399
place and a few others around here

809
00:28:58,389 --> 00:28:56,000
there's also a hindu temple three miles

810
00:29:00,950 --> 00:28:58,399
from my house that's huge and beautiful

811
00:29:02,070 --> 00:29:00,960
that i just want to go check out i'm not

812
00:29:04,470 --> 00:29:02,080
sure how they're going to feel about

813
00:29:07,029 --> 00:29:04,480
that we'll see

814
00:29:08,230 --> 00:29:07,039
yeah it would be interesting so you grew

815
00:29:11,590 --> 00:29:08,240
up in these places

816
00:29:13,830 --> 00:29:11,600
in these tables right yes

817
00:29:15,510 --> 00:29:13,840
so i mean the way that it's set up is

818
00:29:16,389 --> 00:29:15,520
for donations like you're saying there's

819
00:29:19,269 --> 00:29:16,399
just a box

820
00:29:20,710 --> 00:29:19,279
sitting in the middle of the garden and

821
00:29:22,389 --> 00:29:20,720
you can put money in it

822
00:29:24,070 --> 00:29:22,399
or you don't have to it's not something

823
00:29:25,430 --> 00:29:24,080
that happens like at the service in

824
00:29:27,990 --> 00:29:25,440
front of everyone

825
00:29:28,789 --> 00:29:28,000
yeah we catholics we put that plate out

826
00:29:31,830 --> 00:29:28,799
you know yeah

827
00:29:32,470 --> 00:29:31,840
plate we have this basket and guys with

828
00:29:34,549 --> 00:29:32,480
sticks

829
00:29:35,990 --> 00:29:34,559
go down i'm telling you they go down the

830
00:29:37,669 --> 00:29:36,000
aisle and then everybody's looking

831
00:29:39,590 --> 00:29:37,679
around and don't you be one of them that

832
00:29:42,950 --> 00:29:39,600
doesn't put something in the basket you

833
00:29:46,950 --> 00:29:44,549
that's interesting though so just a box

834
00:29:49,830 --> 00:29:46,960
in the garden just walk from the garden

835
00:29:51,190 --> 00:29:49,840
and a lot of times they'll even feed you

836
00:29:54,630 --> 00:29:51,200
oh sure yeah

837
00:29:55,110 --> 00:29:54,640
yeah that's nice yeah no cook vegetarian

838
00:29:57,669 --> 00:29:55,120
food

839
00:29:58,870 --> 00:29:57,679
it's actually vegan to be honest they're

840
00:30:01,350 --> 00:29:58,880
more vegan right

841
00:30:02,870 --> 00:30:01,360
that's what that you can't even tell

842
00:30:04,310 --> 00:30:02,880
like it's so good you can't even tell

843
00:30:09,269 --> 00:30:04,320
that it's

844
00:30:12,870 --> 00:30:11,110
somebody gave me an impossible burger

845
00:30:14,630 --> 00:30:12,880
and i was like what's wrong with this

846
00:30:15,269 --> 00:30:14,640
burger something's not right this is not

847
00:30:18,470 --> 00:30:15,279
right

848
00:30:20,230 --> 00:30:18,480
to this like

849
00:30:22,470 --> 00:30:20,240
especially when they cook like asian

850
00:30:24,149 --> 00:30:22,480
food well yeah well asian food's got a

851
00:30:25,190 --> 00:30:24,159
lot of spices and stuff in it so maybe

852
00:30:27,029 --> 00:30:25,200
you wouldn't tell

853
00:30:28,470 --> 00:30:27,039
that's the so they're professionals like

854
00:30:29,990 --> 00:30:28,480
when you eat

855
00:30:32,630 --> 00:30:30,000
buddhist asian food they're

856
00:30:33,909 --> 00:30:32,640
professionals at making vegetarian food

857
00:30:35,669 --> 00:30:33,919
that tastes yeah so it's a different

858
00:30:37,750 --> 00:30:35,679
level it's a different level than

859
00:30:39,190 --> 00:30:37,760
my poultry vegetarianism which was like

860
00:30:40,389 --> 00:30:39,200
well i guess tonight we're having a

861
00:30:43,029 --> 00:30:40,399
salad and

862
00:30:45,510 --> 00:30:43,039
hot mixed vegetables correct vegetables

863
00:30:48,710 --> 00:30:45,520
you know that's not

864
00:30:50,389 --> 00:30:48,720
yes yeah so growing up in it i guess you

865
00:30:52,070 --> 00:30:50,399
got to see a lot of different temples

866
00:30:54,710 --> 00:30:52,080
and perspectives and things

867
00:30:55,510 --> 00:30:54,720
your mom was pretty active right yes i

868
00:30:56,950 --> 00:30:55,520
mean she

869
00:30:59,190 --> 00:30:56,960
has gone through periods where she's

870
00:31:01,029 --> 00:30:59,200
more active than not but yeah she's

871
00:31:04,230 --> 00:31:01,039
pretty active because the other thing is

872
00:31:07,509 --> 00:31:04,240
that when someone dies

873
00:31:09,830 --> 00:31:07,519
there's not a cemetery instead

874
00:31:11,750 --> 00:31:09,840
because the you're everyone's cremated

875
00:31:14,950 --> 00:31:11,760
you die you get cremated that's your

876
00:31:17,110 --> 00:31:14,960
that's the typical normal thing

877
00:31:17,990 --> 00:31:17,120
and what happens with your ashes is

878
00:31:19,430 --> 00:31:18,000
actually your family

879
00:31:21,669 --> 00:31:19,440
doesn't keep your ashes for the most

880
00:31:23,190 --> 00:31:21,679
part it's considered you can if they

881
00:31:26,630 --> 00:31:23,200
can't if they want to

882
00:31:28,789 --> 00:31:26,640
but it's considered much more typical to

883
00:31:30,389 --> 00:31:28,799
have the ashes stay at the temple where

884
00:31:32,230 --> 00:31:30,399
the people practice

885
00:31:34,149 --> 00:31:32,240
oh well that's interesting i never heard

886
00:31:36,389 --> 00:31:34,159
that before so they'll have like

887
00:31:38,230 --> 00:31:36,399
a shed or like a room dedicated it'll

888
00:31:41,830 --> 00:31:38,240
just be full of urns

889
00:31:44,310 --> 00:31:41,840
wow so um and then that's why a lot of

890
00:31:46,310 --> 00:31:44,320
people go to the temple

891
00:31:47,990 --> 00:31:46,320
frequently is to go visit their family

892
00:31:49,350 --> 00:31:48,000
pray do things like that for their

893
00:31:51,190 --> 00:31:49,360
families yeah

894
00:31:52,470 --> 00:31:51,200
that's where their ancestors are you can

895
00:31:53,990 --> 00:31:52,480
have them at home but

896
00:31:55,190 --> 00:31:54,000
it's easier to just keep in mind yeah i

897
00:31:56,149 --> 00:31:55,200
don't know i always thought that was

898
00:31:59,269 --> 00:31:56,159
crazy like

899
00:32:02,310 --> 00:31:59,279
uh my mother died and we had her dog's

900
00:32:04,070 --> 00:32:02,320
ashes in my house and when she died i

901
00:32:05,750 --> 00:32:04,080
asked the funeral director like can you

902
00:32:06,310 --> 00:32:05,760
put these ashes in there with her

903
00:32:07,669 --> 00:32:06,320
because i

904
00:32:09,590 --> 00:32:07,679
you know look i don't want to just have

905
00:32:11,029 --> 00:32:09,600
her dog's ashes forever and now you

906
00:32:14,549 --> 00:32:11,039
don't want to throw them out

907
00:32:16,470 --> 00:32:14,559
so yeah that's interesting

908
00:32:19,029 --> 00:32:16,480
very interesting i've told a lot of

909
00:32:21,430 --> 00:32:19,039
people specifically the other thing

910
00:32:22,070 --> 00:32:21,440
and this is with regards to buddhism but

911
00:32:23,750 --> 00:32:22,080
it's a little bit

912
00:32:27,430 --> 00:32:23,760
slightly off tangent but also tell you

913
00:32:29,350 --> 00:32:27,440
that if you go to a buddhist funeral

914
00:32:31,190 --> 00:32:29,360
the other thing is is that the cremation

915
00:32:33,269 --> 00:32:31,200
happens at the end of the funeral

916
00:32:35,669 --> 00:32:33,279
which is three days you typically have

917
00:32:38,389 --> 00:32:35,679
an average of three day funeral

918
00:32:40,470 --> 00:32:38,399
on the third day there's like this march

919
00:32:43,190 --> 00:32:40,480
a funeral march

920
00:32:44,710 --> 00:32:43,200
from where the body is on display

921
00:32:45,830 --> 00:32:44,720
because the family's been mourning for

922
00:32:49,190 --> 00:32:45,840
three days openly

923
00:32:51,269 --> 00:32:49,200
in whatever room it is that they're in

924
00:32:53,029 --> 00:32:51,279
then there's a march from that room to

925
00:32:55,590 --> 00:32:53,039
the crematorium

926
00:32:56,149 --> 00:32:55,600
oh i've never heard this and then the

927
00:32:59,029 --> 00:32:56,159
immediate

928
00:33:00,710 --> 00:32:59,039
family actually is there while they load

929
00:33:03,909 --> 00:33:00,720
the body into

930
00:33:06,310 --> 00:33:03,919
the creamy the cremation oven basically

931
00:33:07,669 --> 00:33:06,320
and it's up to you as the family when

932
00:33:09,350 --> 00:33:07,679
you're ready you push the button and

933
00:33:12,710 --> 00:33:09,360
turn it on

934
00:33:14,630 --> 00:33:12,720
wow so that's definitely

935
00:33:16,149 --> 00:33:14,640
different than a normal american or

936
00:33:18,070 --> 00:33:16,159
christian burial which is

937
00:33:19,830 --> 00:33:18,080
correct but you are getting a lot of

938
00:33:20,470 --> 00:33:19,840
closure because you're literally the one

939
00:33:23,669 --> 00:33:20,480
that's saying

940
00:33:25,669 --> 00:33:23,679
okay i'm ready

941
00:33:27,269 --> 00:33:25,679
here we go it's also traumatic a little

942
00:33:28,870 --> 00:33:27,279
bit if you think about it because yeah i

943
00:33:30,230 --> 00:33:28,880
think that's the most traumatic

944
00:33:32,070 --> 00:33:30,240
from the funerals that i've attended

945
00:33:32,630 --> 00:33:32,080
which most of them are christian or you

946
00:33:35,430 --> 00:33:32,640
know

947
00:33:37,110 --> 00:33:35,440
typical western sort of funerals that

948
00:33:38,470 --> 00:33:37,120
that seems to be the traumatic part of

949
00:33:40,950 --> 00:33:38,480
closing the casket

950
00:33:42,070 --> 00:33:40,960
you know because right when you know

951
00:33:43,350 --> 00:33:42,080
you're going to close the casket and

952
00:33:44,549 --> 00:33:43,360
they're going to go be buried in the

953
00:33:45,590 --> 00:33:44,559
ground now

954
00:33:47,830 --> 00:33:45,600
that's the last time that you're going

955
00:33:49,269 --> 00:33:47,840
to see them both my parents it was

956
00:33:52,549 --> 00:33:49,279
traumatic for me that

957
00:33:55,269 --> 00:33:52,559
that last sort of moment you know

958
00:33:56,870 --> 00:33:55,279
yeah so i guess those guys have three

959
00:33:59,590 --> 00:33:56,880
days of mourning though which is

960
00:34:00,950 --> 00:33:59,600
uh funeral which is good too because it

961
00:34:02,710 --> 00:34:00,960
gives more people a chance to come and

962
00:34:03,669 --> 00:34:02,720
pay their respects i guess we have one

963
00:34:05,430 --> 00:34:03,679
day

964
00:34:06,789 --> 00:34:05,440
and we have a viewing on the night

965
00:34:08,629 --> 00:34:06,799
before

966
00:34:09,829 --> 00:34:08,639
and then we have the funeral the next

967
00:34:13,109 --> 00:34:09,839
day yeah

968
00:34:15,190 --> 00:34:13,119
so this is like you have

969
00:34:16,790 --> 00:34:15,200
the view basically it's kind of two days

970
00:34:19,510 --> 00:34:16,800
of open viewing

971
00:34:19,990 --> 00:34:19,520
where the immediate family is there um

972
00:34:21,750 --> 00:34:20,000
and then

973
00:34:24,389 --> 00:34:21,760
people will come and go people that want

974
00:34:25,990 --> 00:34:24,399
to be there will stay there

975
00:34:27,430 --> 00:34:26,000
and then you'll do that for three days

976
00:34:29,109 --> 00:34:27,440
where you'll talk and then there'll be

977
00:34:30,470 --> 00:34:29,119
moments where the monk

978
00:34:32,470 --> 00:34:30,480
will be like little ceremonies there'll

979
00:34:33,909 --> 00:34:32,480
be tea ceremonies and everything

980
00:34:35,510 --> 00:34:33,919
so there's things that happen throughout

981
00:34:37,510 --> 00:34:35,520
those days but yeah it's a

982
00:34:39,109 --> 00:34:37,520
whole three-day process that culminates

983
00:34:41,349 --> 00:34:39,119
in

984
00:34:43,349 --> 00:34:41,359
a march of three people at the front

985
00:34:44,950 --> 00:34:43,359
which are representing the altar so one

986
00:34:46,069 --> 00:34:44,960
person is holding incense one person is

987
00:34:48,950 --> 00:34:46,079
holding

988
00:34:49,750 --> 00:34:48,960
because that's usually what's on an

989
00:34:52,550 --> 00:34:49,760
altar

990
00:34:53,109 --> 00:34:52,560
they need basically this march uh it's

991
00:34:54,550 --> 00:34:53,119
them

992
00:34:56,869 --> 00:34:54,560
and then it's the monks and then it's

993
00:34:58,550 --> 00:34:56,879
the body and then it's all the family

994
00:35:00,310 --> 00:34:58,560
following and in this procession that

995
00:35:02,310 --> 00:35:00,320
kind of happens

996
00:35:04,630 --> 00:35:02,320
so yeah i don't think that i've ever

997
00:35:05,270 --> 00:35:04,640
seen a than a buddhist funeral but i've

998
00:35:07,109 --> 00:35:05,280
been to

999
00:35:08,710 --> 00:35:07,119
a memorial service for somebody that was

1000
00:35:11,030 --> 00:35:08,720
sort of like me like a

1001
00:35:12,069 --> 00:35:11,040
self-practicing buddhist yeah and they

1002
00:35:14,310 --> 00:35:12,079
had uh

1003
00:35:17,190 --> 00:35:14,320
for him he was christian also so for him

1004
00:35:19,670 --> 00:35:17,200
they had like statues of the buddha

1005
00:35:22,069 --> 00:35:19,680
around his picture and statues of jesus

1006
00:35:25,190 --> 00:35:22,079
and mary and that sort of thing

1007
00:35:26,069 --> 00:35:25,200
so back to the deity situation though i

1008
00:35:29,510 --> 00:35:26,079
had

1009
00:35:31,510 --> 00:35:29,520
dealing with

1010
00:35:33,349 --> 00:35:31,520
i guess it's just like for 20 years

1011
00:35:35,109 --> 00:35:33,359
hearing about the one true god

1012
00:35:37,589 --> 00:35:35,119
even though catholicism doesn't make any

1013
00:35:38,630 --> 00:35:37,599
sense because it says we worship one god

1014
00:35:40,390 --> 00:35:38,640
but then we have

1015
00:35:41,990 --> 00:35:40,400
god the father god the son god the holy

1016
00:35:43,349 --> 00:35:42,000
spirit and we're just told it's a

1017
00:35:45,990 --> 00:35:43,359
mystery and you know

1018
00:35:46,550 --> 00:35:46,000
you don't get to know about it you know

1019
00:35:48,790 --> 00:35:46,560
but

1020
00:35:50,069 --> 00:35:48,800
my whole belief system was based on

1021
00:35:51,990 --> 00:35:50,079
there was this one

1022
00:35:54,470 --> 00:35:52,000
true god and he created it we touched on

1023
00:35:57,190 --> 00:35:54,480
that that may be source and those

1024
00:35:58,550 --> 00:35:57,200
that that's a good way to explain it but

1025
00:36:00,950 --> 00:35:58,560
there are

1026
00:36:02,069 --> 00:36:00,960
higher spiritual beings to buddhists

1027
00:36:04,470 --> 00:36:02,079
than humans right

1028
00:36:06,150 --> 00:36:04,480
like for example in christianity we have

1029
00:36:07,190 --> 00:36:06,160
the the humans and then we would have

1030
00:36:09,589 --> 00:36:07,200
like angels

1031
00:36:11,510 --> 00:36:09,599
spirits and angels and saints which

1032
00:36:14,310 --> 00:36:11,520
would be higher spiritual beings

1033
00:36:15,910 --> 00:36:14,320
sort of in between god and man but

1034
00:36:19,270 --> 00:36:15,920
buddhism has

1035
00:36:23,109 --> 00:36:19,280
similar uh deities that are sort of

1036
00:36:26,150 --> 00:36:23,119
between god and man right yes

1037
00:36:26,550 --> 00:36:26,160
so when you look at buddha when you say

1038
00:36:30,470 --> 00:36:26,560
oh

1039
00:36:33,829 --> 00:36:30,480
this is buddha there have been seven

1040
00:36:35,510 --> 00:36:33,839
buddhas that are confirmed right

1041
00:36:36,950 --> 00:36:35,520
the seventh being gautama buddha which

1042
00:36:40,470 --> 00:36:36,960
is the one we talk about when i say oh

1043
00:36:41,990 --> 00:36:40,480
buddha was born as a prince in india

1044
00:36:43,750 --> 00:36:42,000
but there were six before him and

1045
00:36:46,390 --> 00:36:43,760
there's supposed to be a new one

1046
00:36:48,710 --> 00:36:46,400
maitre buddha who may be here or maybe

1047
00:36:50,550 --> 00:36:48,720
he's coming is unclear

1048
00:36:52,069 --> 00:36:50,560
um so there's kind of like christ a lot

1049
00:36:55,030 --> 00:36:52,079
of people think he's already come

1050
00:36:56,870 --> 00:36:55,040
you know if 2020 is any indicator of the

1051
00:36:59,190 --> 00:36:56,880
apocalypse

1052
00:37:00,470 --> 00:36:59,200
it might be here alright no it's truly

1053
00:37:01,910 --> 00:37:00,480
like a lot of christians believe that

1054
00:37:02,550 --> 00:37:01,920
he's already incarnated he's already

1055
00:37:04,550 --> 00:37:02,560
been born

1056
00:37:05,990 --> 00:37:04,560
you know i believe my answer is already

1057
00:37:07,190 --> 00:37:06,000
here and there's been people that have

1058
00:37:09,349 --> 00:37:07,200
taken pictures and like this guy is the

1059
00:37:12,870 --> 00:37:09,359
guy

1060
00:37:15,030 --> 00:37:12,880
that's interesting i don't know but um

1061
00:37:17,190 --> 00:37:15,040
but yeah i mean so there's the whole

1062
00:37:20,390 --> 00:37:17,200
idea of buddha there's also

1063
00:37:24,230 --> 00:37:20,400
amitabha buddha which specifically goes

1064
00:37:26,550 --> 00:37:24,240
he's kind of like a celestial or

1065
00:37:27,990 --> 00:37:26,560
universal buddha is a way to put it so

1066
00:37:30,150 --> 00:37:28,000
he when you say buddha that's not

1067
00:37:33,190 --> 00:37:30,160
usually who you're talking about

1068
00:37:34,630 --> 00:37:33,200
um amitabha i would put more as kind of

1069
00:37:37,589 --> 00:37:34,640
like this

1070
00:37:38,470 --> 00:37:37,599
it's not source but it's kind of like an

1071
00:37:43,510 --> 00:37:38,480
idea of

1072
00:37:47,270 --> 00:37:46,550
someone to bridge the gap because it's

1073
00:37:49,430 --> 00:37:47,280
gone

1074
00:37:51,030 --> 00:37:49,440
we're waiting for a myetra so who's you

1075
00:37:51,829 --> 00:37:51,040
know kind of watching things to make

1076
00:37:55,109 --> 00:37:51,839
sure we're not

1077
00:37:55,670 --> 00:37:55,119
totally blowing it and that would be him

1078
00:37:57,109 --> 00:37:55,680
yeah

1079
00:37:58,870 --> 00:37:57,119
it would be him which i mean we kind of

1080
00:37:59,670 --> 00:37:58,880
still are blowing it but what what can

1081
00:38:01,750 --> 00:37:59,680
he do he's

1082
00:38:08,950 --> 00:38:01,760
you know got a whole universe to look

1083
00:38:13,670 --> 00:38:11,750
especially if somebody is like thinking

1084
00:38:14,950 --> 00:38:13,680
of god in a selfish way like god why

1085
00:38:16,390 --> 00:38:14,960
can't i make more money

1086
00:38:18,630 --> 00:38:16,400
you know i'm struggling or whatever i

1087
00:38:19,190 --> 00:38:18,640
just think like dude's probably pretty

1088
00:38:21,910 --> 00:38:19,200
busy

1089
00:38:23,109 --> 00:38:21,920
you know and people but people believe

1090
00:38:25,109 --> 00:38:23,119
that they

1091
00:38:26,470 --> 00:38:25,119
they're little yeah that well i guess if

1092
00:38:29,990 --> 00:38:26,480
you're omniscient and

1093
00:38:33,030 --> 00:38:30,000
and then you could you could yeah

1094
00:38:34,790 --> 00:38:33,040
yeah this this stuff breaks my brain

1095
00:38:36,710 --> 00:38:34,800
i know me too no i'm with you i'm

1096
00:38:39,990 --> 00:38:36,720
totally with you on that

1097
00:38:42,630 --> 00:38:40,000
okay so we have seven different buddhas

1098
00:38:45,190 --> 00:38:42,640
that have come and it's theoretically

1099
00:38:46,710 --> 00:38:45,200
saying it's the same person

1100
00:38:48,870 --> 00:38:46,720
because you're reincarnating right so

1101
00:38:51,190 --> 00:38:48,880
buddha's reincarnated seven times

1102
00:38:52,550 --> 00:38:51,200
it's the same core soul but it's a

1103
00:38:55,430 --> 00:38:52,560
different person

1104
00:38:55,910 --> 00:38:55,440
i guess but when you're talking about

1105
00:38:58,550 --> 00:38:55,920
different

1106
00:38:59,910 --> 00:38:58,560
deities there's also the idea so there's

1107
00:39:00,950 --> 00:38:59,920
two different things going on at the

1108
00:39:03,270 --> 00:39:00,960
same time one

1109
00:39:04,069 --> 00:39:03,280
there's a whole idea of bodhisattvas

1110
00:39:10,390 --> 00:39:04,079
which

1111
00:39:12,630 --> 00:39:10,400
in their veda and mahayana buddhism but

1112
00:39:14,710 --> 00:39:12,640
in theravada the idea is that

1113
00:39:16,310 --> 00:39:14,720
there can only be one bodhisattva at a

1114
00:39:18,710 --> 00:39:16,320
time

1115
00:39:20,069 --> 00:39:18,720
and that bodhisattva has to live all

1116
00:39:23,349 --> 00:39:20,079
their lives

1117
00:39:24,950 --> 00:39:23,359
exit um suffering and living

1118
00:39:26,710 --> 00:39:24,960
and then basically go to source and then

1119
00:39:29,030 --> 00:39:26,720
the next bodhisattva can exist and that

1120
00:39:30,950 --> 00:39:29,040
that's what buddha was doing

1121
00:39:32,870 --> 00:39:30,960
all seven of those lives he was reaching

1122
00:39:34,150 --> 00:39:32,880
that point he reached it at number seven

1123
00:39:35,349 --> 00:39:34,160
and then now he's gone and now we have

1124
00:39:37,750 --> 00:39:35,359
to wait for another one

1125
00:39:38,950 --> 00:39:37,760
that's the idea of theravada in mahayana

1126
00:39:40,390 --> 00:39:38,960
which is the greater vehicle

1127
00:39:42,550 --> 00:39:40,400
and this is why it's called the greater

1128
00:39:44,870 --> 00:39:42,560
vehicle more people practice it but also

1129
00:39:45,670 --> 00:39:44,880
it's more open to people it's not one

1130
00:39:48,950 --> 00:39:45,680
guy does it

1131
00:39:50,710 --> 00:39:48,960
you do your best until it's your turn

1132
00:39:52,390 --> 00:39:50,720
it's this other guy's turn first that's

1133
00:39:54,710 --> 00:39:52,400
kind of their game mahayana

1134
00:39:56,950 --> 00:39:54,720
is it's more inclusive yeah we're all in

1135
00:40:00,310 --> 00:39:56,960
this together

1136
00:40:01,270 --> 00:40:00,320
um so if you live a perfect life and do

1137
00:40:03,109 --> 00:40:01,280
great

1138
00:40:05,030 --> 00:40:03,119
your goal actually isn't to escape

1139
00:40:09,510 --> 00:40:05,040
suffering by yourself

1140
00:40:11,270 --> 00:40:09,520
your goal is as a bodhisattva is to stay

1141
00:40:13,190 --> 00:40:11,280
and to help as many other people as

1142
00:40:14,150 --> 00:40:13,200
possible so that everyone together can

1143
00:40:15,510 --> 00:40:14,160
exit suffering

1144
00:40:17,349 --> 00:40:15,520
so you're looking at the greater good

1145
00:40:19,030 --> 00:40:17,359
rather than individual

1146
00:40:20,470 --> 00:40:19,040
salvation that makes sense and that

1147
00:40:22,710 --> 00:40:20,480
seems to be a good

1148
00:40:24,870 --> 00:40:22,720
sort of uh spiritual belief to worry

1149
00:40:26,390 --> 00:40:24,880
more or to worry about others

1150
00:40:28,069 --> 00:40:26,400
and not be selfish and only worry about

1151
00:40:31,030 --> 00:40:28,079
your own suffering you know

1152
00:40:32,069 --> 00:40:31,040
correct you know i i had a friend who uh

1153
00:40:35,270 --> 00:40:32,079
who lost uh

1154
00:40:37,190 --> 00:40:35,280
who lost his wife and uh he was in a

1155
00:40:40,069 --> 00:40:37,200
tremendous amount of suffering and he

1156
00:40:43,109 --> 00:40:40,079
went and worked at a soup kitchen

1157
00:40:44,150 --> 00:40:43,119
for a year and that's how he dealt with

1158
00:40:47,190 --> 00:40:44,160
his

1159
00:40:49,270 --> 00:40:47,200
situation because it helped him to see

1160
00:40:50,630 --> 00:40:49,280
that like okay i lost this loved one but

1161
00:40:51,750 --> 00:40:50,640
there's other people that are suffering

1162
00:40:54,950 --> 00:40:51,760
more than me

1163
00:40:55,270 --> 00:40:54,960
and i'll go help them you know so it's

1164
00:40:59,030 --> 00:40:55,280
good

1165
00:41:01,270 --> 00:40:59,040
if you're suffering yourself help

1166
00:41:03,270 --> 00:41:01,280
others who are also suffering right it's

1167
00:41:06,230 --> 00:41:03,280
a good philosophy i think

1168
00:41:08,069 --> 00:41:06,240
it is it definitely is and when you look

1169
00:41:08,950 --> 00:41:08,079
at these different bodhisattvas some

1170
00:41:11,109 --> 00:41:08,960
there are some that are

1171
00:41:12,470 --> 00:41:11,119
way more well-known than others or some

1172
00:41:14,470 --> 00:41:12,480
that barely anybody knows

1173
00:41:15,829 --> 00:41:14,480
like you know because there's hundreds

1174
00:41:17,750 --> 00:41:15,839
of thousands of them

1175
00:41:19,270 --> 00:41:17,760
but really i'm sure there's quite a list

1176
00:41:20,950 --> 00:41:19,280
right and people have been writing them

1177
00:41:22,710 --> 00:41:20,960
down and

1178
00:41:24,550 --> 00:41:22,720
yes to for the people that have reached

1179
00:41:25,990 --> 00:41:24,560
that level the one that's probably i

1180
00:41:27,670 --> 00:41:26,000
would say the most well known or at

1181
00:41:29,589 --> 00:41:27,680
least the one i make sure is the most

1182
00:41:32,390 --> 00:41:29,599
well known

1183
00:41:34,710 --> 00:41:32,400
um would be kuan yin she's to me is the

1184
00:41:37,030 --> 00:41:34,720
epitome of a bodhisattva

1185
00:41:39,270 --> 00:41:37,040
can you tell us some more about her so

1186
00:41:41,750 --> 00:41:39,280
if you look at this from a christian or

1187
00:41:43,990 --> 00:41:41,760
actually more specifically from a

1188
00:41:46,950 --> 00:41:44,000
catholic point of view

1189
00:41:48,630 --> 00:41:46,960
within buddhism as a religion kuan yin

1190
00:41:49,990 --> 00:41:48,640
plays that same type of role as mother

1191
00:41:52,230 --> 00:41:50,000
mary

1192
00:41:53,910 --> 00:41:52,240
to be to grant like this mercy and to

1193
00:41:55,750 --> 00:41:53,920
kind of help people like that whole idea

1194
00:41:57,910 --> 00:41:55,760
people pray specifically to her

1195
00:41:59,109 --> 00:41:57,920
i pray probably to her more than i pray

1196
00:42:00,550 --> 00:41:59,119
to buddha when you're looking at

1197
00:42:02,550 --> 00:42:00,560
buddhism

1198
00:42:04,150 --> 00:42:02,560
and that's perfectly permissible right

1199
00:42:07,270 --> 00:42:04,160
and it's perfectly permissible

1200
00:42:08,069 --> 00:42:07,280
now see in catholicism we have prayers

1201
00:42:09,589 --> 00:42:08,079
to marry

1202
00:42:11,349 --> 00:42:09,599
obviously we have like the hail mary and

1203
00:42:12,390 --> 00:42:11,359
we have the rosary which is specifically

1204
00:42:15,349 --> 00:42:12,400
dedicated

1205
00:42:15,990 --> 00:42:15,359
but the priests always warn you that you

1206
00:42:18,390 --> 00:42:16,000
have to pray

1207
00:42:20,390 --> 00:42:18,400
to god or jesus twice as much as you

1208
00:42:21,190 --> 00:42:20,400
pray to mary so if you pray to mary for

1209
00:42:23,270 --> 00:42:21,200
an hour

1210
00:42:24,309 --> 00:42:23,280
that's okay but then you have to pray to

1211
00:42:26,870 --> 00:42:24,319
god

1212
00:42:27,829 --> 00:42:26,880
the father or the son or the holy spirit

1213
00:42:29,829 --> 00:42:27,839
for two hours

1214
00:42:31,030 --> 00:42:29,839
like they're very clear in that because

1215
00:42:34,470 --> 00:42:31,040
they don't want

1216
00:42:36,069 --> 00:42:34,480
her to take more attention

1217
00:42:38,069 --> 00:42:36,079
you know but maybe this is just male

1218
00:42:39,670 --> 00:42:38,079
centric perspective

1219
00:42:42,069 --> 00:42:39,680
right like they don't like the girl

1220
00:42:43,670 --> 00:42:42,079
getting all the attention

1221
00:42:45,190 --> 00:42:43,680
it could be a piece of that because with

1222
00:42:48,069 --> 00:42:45,200
christianity there's a lot of

1223
00:42:49,670 --> 00:42:48,079
patriarchal kind of things built into it

1224
00:42:52,390 --> 00:42:49,680
i mean buddhism has some of that

1225
00:42:54,150 --> 00:42:52,400
there in fact there are people there are

1226
00:42:55,829 --> 00:42:54,160
some lines

1227
00:42:58,550 --> 00:42:55,839
or quotes from the buddha specifically

1228
00:43:00,470 --> 00:42:58,560
saying that a woman can't do it

1229
00:43:01,829 --> 00:43:00,480
well that's interesting how do modern

1230
00:43:04,950 --> 00:43:01,839
feminists feel about that

1231
00:43:06,870 --> 00:43:04,960
portion of judaism but then you look at

1232
00:43:08,630 --> 00:43:06,880
and so that's why they're then that

1233
00:43:09,910 --> 00:43:08,640
calls more under theravada where that's

1234
00:43:12,390 --> 00:43:09,920
been said because remember they're the

1235
00:43:14,230 --> 00:43:12,400
ones that are following what would be

1236
00:43:15,030 --> 00:43:14,240
considered the literal word of buddha or

1237
00:43:17,190 --> 00:43:15,040
word of god

1238
00:43:18,069 --> 00:43:17,200
right does that make sense but in

1239
00:43:19,829 --> 00:43:18,079
mahayana

1240
00:43:21,270 --> 00:43:19,839
you have the more flexibility you have

1241
00:43:23,589 --> 00:43:21,280
that opening so there's not that

1242
00:43:25,109 --> 00:43:23,599
limitation on women

1243
00:43:27,349 --> 00:43:25,119
um so that helps too and there's

1244
00:43:28,950 --> 00:43:27,359
actually female monks i've known female

1245
00:43:30,710 --> 00:43:28,960
monks they shaved their oh yeah

1246
00:43:32,069 --> 00:43:30,720
i've seen a female monk get a lecture

1247
00:43:35,109 --> 00:43:32,079
and she had a shaved head and that

1248
00:43:36,790 --> 00:43:35,119
sort of uh i don't know it's just that

1249
00:43:38,550 --> 00:43:36,800
that was the first one that i saw and

1250
00:43:39,190 --> 00:43:38,560
then i got i got to know that there's

1251
00:43:42,230 --> 00:43:39,200
many

1252
00:43:43,670 --> 00:43:42,240
it's not it's not a uncommon but i was

1253
00:43:45,510 --> 00:43:43,680
surprised coming from a catholic

1254
00:43:48,150 --> 00:43:45,520
background where like

1255
00:43:50,309 --> 00:43:48,160
the uh all the clergy are male i mean we

1256
00:43:51,430 --> 00:43:50,319
have nuns but the nuns really are like

1257
00:43:53,430 --> 00:43:51,440
the servitors

1258
00:43:55,589 --> 00:43:53,440
of the men you know what i mean like

1259
00:43:56,150 --> 00:43:55,599
they they live across the street from

1260
00:43:59,430 --> 00:43:56,160
each other

1261
00:44:01,030 --> 00:43:59,440
in a convent and the priest's house but

1262
00:44:03,030 --> 00:44:01,040
but the nuns will go clean the priest's

1263
00:44:06,870 --> 00:44:03,040
house and make them dinner and

1264
00:44:10,550 --> 00:44:06,880
run the school for the priests you know

1265
00:44:14,069 --> 00:44:10,560
they're really more of a servitor lesser

1266
00:44:17,670 --> 00:44:15,829
so yeah when you get into mahayana

1267
00:44:20,390 --> 00:44:17,680
specifically

1268
00:44:21,190 --> 00:44:20,400
there's much more flexibility um there

1269
00:44:23,510 --> 00:44:21,200
are female

1270
00:44:24,630 --> 00:44:23,520
nuns and female monks and they'll

1271
00:44:26,710 --> 00:44:24,640
they'll do

1272
00:44:27,910 --> 00:44:26,720
you know in fact when i officially

1273
00:44:30,230 --> 00:44:27,920
became buddhist

1274
00:44:31,750 --> 00:44:30,240
like i was if you can be baptized

1275
00:44:33,109 --> 00:44:31,760
buddhist is that equivalent of being

1276
00:44:35,109 --> 00:44:33,119
baptized as buddhist

1277
00:44:36,870 --> 00:44:35,119
it was a female monk that taught the

1278
00:44:38,230 --> 00:44:36,880
classes that you kind of go through

1279
00:44:40,790 --> 00:44:38,240
for what you would consider like

1280
00:44:43,349 --> 00:44:40,800
confirmation interesting

1281
00:44:44,950 --> 00:44:43,359
so yeah so yeah and she spoke really

1282
00:44:46,230 --> 00:44:44,960
good english because remember

1283
00:44:49,510 --> 00:44:46,240
a lot of the things i'm going toward

1284
00:44:52,390 --> 00:44:49,520
vietnamese oh sure yeah

1285
00:44:53,109 --> 00:44:52,400
um but back to the deity conversation

1286
00:44:54,470 --> 00:44:53,119
because i just

1287
00:44:56,550 --> 00:44:54,480
there was another point i wanted to make

1288
00:44:59,030 --> 00:44:56,560
before we get too far from it yeah

1289
00:45:01,430 --> 00:44:59,040
yeah this is a lot to cover so i should

1290
00:45:03,990 --> 00:45:01,440
have had better like bullet notes or uh

1291
00:45:04,630 --> 00:45:04,000
i'm sorry oh no you're fine i know that

1292
00:45:06,150 --> 00:45:04,640
it's a lot

1293
00:45:08,069 --> 00:45:06,160
so i know we're jumping all over the

1294
00:45:09,510 --> 00:45:08,079
place and that's my fault because i keep

1295
00:45:12,150 --> 00:45:09,520
having these things come up

1296
00:45:13,430 --> 00:45:12,160
but uh yeah yeah no it's quite right so

1297
00:45:14,950 --> 00:45:13,440
back to the deities

1298
00:45:17,190 --> 00:45:14,960
so another reason there are so many

1299
00:45:19,030 --> 00:45:17,200
deities quote unquote or like

1300
00:45:21,349 --> 00:45:19,040
bodhisattvas or saints or whatever you

1301
00:45:24,309 --> 00:45:21,359
want to put in that line

1302
00:45:26,550 --> 00:45:24,319
because buddhism also practices

1303
00:45:30,470 --> 00:45:26,560
religious syncretism

1304
00:45:32,710 --> 00:45:30,480
where in order to kind of

1305
00:45:33,589 --> 00:45:32,720
grow in an area the only way that a

1306
00:45:37,109 --> 00:45:33,599
religion can

1307
00:45:40,150 --> 00:45:37,119
grow in a good way in an area

1308
00:45:41,829 --> 00:45:40,160
without you know bloodshed and things

1309
00:45:45,270 --> 00:45:41,839
like that

1310
00:45:48,390 --> 00:45:45,280
is if they also kind of take on

1311
00:45:49,030 --> 00:45:48,400
local customs oh include local yeah yeah

1312
00:45:51,349 --> 00:45:49,040
so we're

1313
00:45:52,710 --> 00:45:51,359
so that's why in buddhism not all

1314
00:45:53,910 --> 00:45:52,720
buddhists do this but if you look at

1315
00:45:56,630 --> 00:45:53,920
buddhists that are from

1316
00:45:57,510 --> 00:45:56,640
areas of vietnam and from china you'll

1317
00:45:59,430 --> 00:45:57,520
see they practice

1318
00:46:00,710 --> 00:45:59,440
ancestor worship because that comes from

1319
00:46:03,030 --> 00:46:00,720
taoism

1320
00:46:05,030 --> 00:46:03,040
okay um so when they came into that area

1321
00:46:07,270 --> 00:46:05,040
that just became part of buddhism

1322
00:46:08,870 --> 00:46:07,280
that's why people say oh look it's

1323
00:46:12,790 --> 00:46:08,880
buddha and you see like the

1324
00:46:14,790 --> 00:46:12,800
fat happy buddha that's buddha

1325
00:46:16,470 --> 00:46:14,800
that's a chinese that's actually another

1326
00:46:17,829 --> 00:46:16,480
taoist chinese god

1327
00:46:19,910 --> 00:46:17,839
interesting it's interesting that you

1328
00:46:22,630 --> 00:46:19,920
say that because i like buddhist

1329
00:46:24,630 --> 00:46:22,640
statues but i like the indian thinner

1330
00:46:27,030 --> 00:46:24,640
version i've never liked the big fat

1331
00:46:28,150 --> 00:46:27,040
happy so that's it didn't seem authentic

1332
00:46:31,270 --> 00:46:28,160
to me because

1333
00:46:34,309 --> 00:46:31,280
buddha was indian right

1334
00:46:37,589 --> 00:46:34,319
so to make him a fat happy chinese guy

1335
00:46:38,950 --> 00:46:37,599
as an idol seemed wrong no really

1336
00:46:41,910 --> 00:46:38,960
all the buddhas that i have are the

1337
00:46:42,950 --> 00:46:41,920
indian kind and that's actually having a

1338
00:46:45,349 --> 00:46:42,960
buddha statue

1339
00:46:46,950 --> 00:46:45,359
when people have like the little fat

1340
00:46:48,790 --> 00:46:46,960
happy happy buddha

1341
00:46:49,990 --> 00:46:48,800
so to speak that's not buddha that's

1342
00:46:51,750 --> 00:46:50,000
just a

1343
00:46:53,109 --> 00:46:51,760
god no still to this day i don't know

1344
00:46:54,550 --> 00:46:53,119
why but every time i'm in a chinese

1345
00:46:55,430 --> 00:46:54,560
restaurant where they have a huge one i

1346
00:46:56,950 --> 00:46:55,440
rub his belly

1347
00:46:58,230 --> 00:46:56,960
i don't know why but a chinese person

1348
00:47:00,550 --> 00:46:58,240
told me that's good luck so every time

1349
00:47:03,670 --> 00:47:00,560
i'm in a chinese food place

1350
00:47:05,430 --> 00:47:03,680
you gotta rub the fat boo to belly

1351
00:47:07,190 --> 00:47:05,440
or you can give him a dollar he'll take

1352
00:47:09,349 --> 00:47:07,200
either one

1353
00:47:10,230 --> 00:47:09,359
yeah i guess that works so that's

1354
00:47:12,150 --> 00:47:10,240
interesting because

1355
00:47:13,910 --> 00:47:12,160
catholicism did the same sort of thing i

1356
00:47:17,030 --> 00:47:13,920
mean that's where like that's where like

1357
00:47:18,950 --> 00:47:17,040
voodoo came from the the uh voodoo

1358
00:47:21,430 --> 00:47:18,960
practitioners started using the saints

1359
00:47:23,270 --> 00:47:21,440
that would represent their gods

1360
00:47:25,589 --> 00:47:23,280
because if the catholics came in and

1361
00:47:26,710 --> 00:47:25,599
tried you know shut them down no no

1362
00:47:28,470 --> 00:47:26,720
that's saint michael

1363
00:47:32,069 --> 00:47:28,480
you know that's the blessed mary but to

1364
00:47:33,270 --> 00:47:32,079
them it corresponded to their own gods

1365
00:47:35,670 --> 00:47:33,280
so i guess there was sort of this

1366
00:47:35,990 --> 00:47:35,680
cultural appropriation where they took

1367
00:47:38,390 --> 00:47:36,000
and

1368
00:47:39,990 --> 00:47:38,400
didn't that also happened as far as

1369
00:47:41,910 --> 00:47:40,000
hindu gods because i think there's a

1370
00:47:45,030 --> 00:47:41,920
strong connection with hindu gods

1371
00:47:46,790 --> 00:47:45,040
yeah especially because they're in that

1372
00:47:48,630 --> 00:47:46,800
same region that originated in the same

1373
00:47:51,030 --> 00:47:48,640
region

1374
00:47:53,430 --> 00:47:51,040
yeah buddhism came later but basically

1375
00:47:55,349 --> 00:47:53,440
buddhism thought

1376
00:47:57,829 --> 00:47:55,359
from buddha's perspective hinduism is

1377
00:48:00,950 --> 00:47:57,839
very materialistic

1378
00:48:03,430 --> 00:48:00,960
so that makes sense i guess that's

1379
00:48:04,069 --> 00:48:03,440
what it is it's that because there's not

1380
00:48:06,309 --> 00:48:04,079
the caste

1381
00:48:07,670 --> 00:48:06,319
system with buddhism that exists in

1382
00:48:10,790 --> 00:48:07,680
hinduism

1383
00:48:12,790 --> 00:48:10,800
so actually there is this annual um

1384
00:48:13,829 --> 00:48:12,800
ceremony that happens every year for the

1385
00:48:16,230 --> 00:48:13,839
untouchables

1386
00:48:17,750 --> 00:48:16,240
in hinduism they can convert to buddhism

1387
00:48:19,510 --> 00:48:17,760
and then they're no longer locked into

1388
00:48:22,710 --> 00:48:19,520
the caste system

1389
00:48:24,069 --> 00:48:22,720
well that's interesting yeah so they'll

1390
00:48:25,910 --> 00:48:24,079
convert and then they don't have

1391
00:48:27,510 --> 00:48:25,920
then then they don't have the social

1392
00:48:28,790 --> 00:48:27,520
issues anymore instead they have the

1393
00:48:30,790 --> 00:48:28,800
social of i'm

1394
00:48:32,870 --> 00:48:30,800
buddhist or hindu but they don't have

1395
00:48:34,549 --> 00:48:32,880
the i'm an untouchable or i'm in a low

1396
00:48:35,750 --> 00:48:34,559
caste and you can be mean to me kind of

1397
00:48:37,030 --> 00:48:35,760
thing

1398
00:48:39,109 --> 00:48:37,040
interesting that this stuff still

1399
00:48:41,430 --> 00:48:39,119
happens it's

1400
00:48:43,190 --> 00:48:41,440
crazy that still happens yeah i knew i

1401
00:48:46,309 --> 00:48:43,200
knew an indian girl who told me that she

1402
00:48:50,549 --> 00:48:46,319
wasn't allowed to marry the guy that she

1403
00:48:52,309 --> 00:48:50,559
wanted to because he was a much lower

1404
00:48:54,309 --> 00:48:52,319
i don't know what the scale is but she

1405
00:48:56,470 --> 00:48:54,319
was sort of considered upper class and

1406
00:48:59,190 --> 00:48:56,480
he was lower class and her family just

1407
00:49:01,430 --> 00:48:59,200
you are not marrying down you know you

1408
00:49:04,230 --> 00:49:01,440
have to marry in the same cast as you

1409
00:49:05,829 --> 00:49:04,240
which is just crazy in today's times but

1410
00:49:08,790 --> 00:49:05,839
okay

1411
00:49:10,710 --> 00:49:08,800
so the hindu gods wasn't there so there

1412
00:49:12,470 --> 00:49:10,720
was definitely some interaction between

1413
00:49:14,069 --> 00:49:12,480
buddha and some of the hindu gods and

1414
00:49:15,510 --> 00:49:14,079
some of the scriptures and stories

1415
00:49:18,710 --> 00:49:15,520
though wasn't there

1416
00:49:21,270 --> 00:49:18,720
yeah i mean there's because there's

1417
00:49:22,150 --> 00:49:21,280
because when you go into uh buddhism

1418
00:49:24,870 --> 00:49:22,160
there's also kind of

1419
00:49:26,710 --> 00:49:24,880
a mythology that's inside of it and

1420
00:49:27,430 --> 00:49:26,720
within that mythology that's where you

1421
00:49:33,670 --> 00:49:27,440
have

1422
00:49:36,390 --> 00:49:33,680
example the whole idea of shambhala

1423
00:49:37,510 --> 00:49:36,400
is a buddhist concept that there's this

1424
00:49:41,510 --> 00:49:37,520
hidden

1425
00:49:44,549 --> 00:49:41,520
magical utopian city in the middle east

1426
00:49:48,230 --> 00:49:44,559
sounds great right but

1427
00:49:55,510 --> 00:49:52,390
krishna is actually said to

1428
00:49:59,270 --> 00:49:55,520
be born as a buddha

1429
00:50:02,710 --> 00:49:59,280
in shambhala

1430
00:50:06,710 --> 00:50:02,720
so there is a lot and so

1431
00:50:12,150 --> 00:50:09,750
so it it's interesting definitely

1432
00:50:13,030 --> 00:50:12,160
and we talk about it being completely

1433
00:50:16,470 --> 00:50:13,040
possible and

1434
00:50:18,870 --> 00:50:16,480
uh to some people uh to be

1435
00:50:20,710 --> 00:50:18,880
both christian and buddhist can you be

1436
00:50:23,750 --> 00:50:20,720
both hindu and buddhist or is that

1437
00:50:25,109 --> 00:50:23,760
incomplete technically you can i don't

1438
00:50:26,549 --> 00:50:25,119
think that there's a lot of people who

1439
00:50:30,710 --> 00:50:26,559
do

1440
00:50:34,710 --> 00:50:33,349
and when and there's also some religions

1441
00:50:36,309 --> 00:50:34,720
that combine

1442
00:50:37,829 --> 00:50:36,319
like i said we were saying earlier not

1443
00:50:39,750 --> 00:50:37,839
just people that are christian that

1444
00:50:41,829 --> 00:50:39,760
have buddhist philosophy but there's

1445
00:50:45,510 --> 00:50:41,839
actually religions that exist

1446
00:50:48,230 --> 00:50:45,520
i've talked about before cow dyism which

1447
00:50:49,030 --> 00:50:48,240
yeah which originates in vietnam but it

1448
00:50:51,270 --> 00:50:49,040
does

1449
00:50:53,430 --> 00:50:51,280
specifically combine the ideals of

1450
00:50:56,069 --> 00:50:53,440
catholicism and buddhism into a third

1451
00:51:02,710 --> 00:50:59,510
so it's you know

1452
00:51:04,630 --> 00:51:02,720
it's both yeah so we talked about the

1453
00:51:06,790 --> 00:51:04,640
buddhist and he talks about

1454
00:51:08,150 --> 00:51:06,800
can you give me her name again the uh

1455
00:51:11,750 --> 00:51:08,160
the female

1456
00:51:13,190 --> 00:51:11,760
version sounds like a video game

1457
00:51:14,630 --> 00:51:13,200
character i don't know why i can't

1458
00:51:15,430 --> 00:51:14,640
remember that i'm sure i've read about

1459
00:51:19,270 --> 00:51:15,440
her before

1460
00:51:21,670 --> 00:51:19,280
and that's her chinese name is chinese

1461
00:51:22,630 --> 00:51:21,680
yeah and then when you look at the tibet

1462
00:51:26,150 --> 00:51:22,640
because

1463
00:51:29,270 --> 00:51:26,160
it originated as a tibetan deity

1464
00:51:31,030 --> 00:51:29,280
avalo kitsavara which is hard to say was

1465
00:51:35,030 --> 00:51:31,040
actually a male deity the male

1466
00:51:38,710 --> 00:51:35,040
the male bodhisattva of um

1467
00:51:41,270 --> 00:51:38,720
of mercy okay uh and then

1468
00:51:43,430 --> 00:51:41,280
as mahayana buddhism kind of took off

1469
00:51:47,190 --> 00:51:43,440
and moved into china

1470
00:51:49,990 --> 00:51:47,200
then all of a sudden the energy changed

1471
00:51:51,349 --> 00:51:50,000
and it went from being a male deity to

1472
00:51:53,589 --> 00:51:51,359
being a female deity

1473
00:51:55,510 --> 00:51:53,599
and kind of filling that divine feminine

1474
00:51:57,670 --> 00:51:55,520
role in the religion

1475
00:51:58,630 --> 00:51:57,680
and this would be usual the usual things

1476
00:52:02,309 --> 00:51:58,640
like fertility

1477
00:52:04,870 --> 00:52:02,319
mercy motherly love sort of

1478
00:52:05,589 --> 00:52:04,880
yes it's mostly the motherly love and

1479
00:52:09,109 --> 00:52:05,599
the mercy

1480
00:52:11,430 --> 00:52:09,119
and kind of that um

1481
00:52:13,270 --> 00:52:11,440
you know release of basically helping as

1482
00:52:14,230 --> 00:52:13,280
many people as possible releasing people

1483
00:52:15,829 --> 00:52:14,240
from suffering

1484
00:52:17,430 --> 00:52:15,839
she's the one that's gonna help you

1485
00:52:18,549 --> 00:52:17,440
there's and the other thing is that

1486
00:52:21,990 --> 00:52:18,559
there's different versions that you'll

1487
00:52:25,670 --> 00:52:23,990
and there's a version of her that's kind

1488
00:52:27,190 --> 00:52:25,680
of just sitting in peaceful where she's

1489
00:52:29,349 --> 00:52:27,200
merciful but there's also a version of

1490
00:52:31,750 --> 00:52:29,359
her with a hundred arms

1491
00:52:33,109 --> 00:52:31,760
with the idea that as she was reaching

1492
00:52:34,950 --> 00:52:33,119
nirvana

1493
00:52:37,270 --> 00:52:34,960
she looked back and saw all the

1494
00:52:38,870 --> 00:52:37,280
suffering and wanted to help so many

1495
00:52:41,910 --> 00:52:38,880
people at once that her arms

1496
00:52:43,750 --> 00:52:41,920
shattered into a hundred different arms

1497
00:52:47,750 --> 00:52:43,760
so that she could help people at the

1498
00:52:50,470 --> 00:52:47,760
same time

1499
00:52:52,069 --> 00:52:50,480
so that's this she's definitely

1500
00:52:53,990 --> 00:52:52,079
interesting because

1501
00:52:56,150 --> 00:52:54,000
it's nice to know that there's a female

1502
00:52:59,510 --> 00:52:56,160
counterpart in buddhism to

1503
00:53:02,870 --> 00:52:59,520
a lot of the stuff in christianity and

1504
00:53:05,430 --> 00:53:02,880
so what about things like demons and

1505
00:53:06,309 --> 00:53:05,440
angels as they would relate to buddhism

1506
00:53:09,109 --> 00:53:06,319
because they have

1507
00:53:09,670 --> 00:53:09,119
demons that will torture you correct and

1508
00:53:12,150 --> 00:53:09,680
they will have

1509
00:53:14,549 --> 00:53:12,160
angels or sort of angels that will come

1510
00:53:16,549 --> 00:53:14,559
and help relieve your suffering

1511
00:53:19,030 --> 00:53:16,559
also right can you talk a little bit

1512
00:53:20,630 --> 00:53:19,040
about the demons and angels of buddhism

1513
00:53:25,589 --> 00:53:20,640
or their equivalence

1514
00:53:29,270 --> 00:53:25,599
so in buddhism there are technically

1515
00:53:32,150 --> 00:53:29,280
seven realms or six realms sorry

1516
00:53:33,829 --> 00:53:32,160
there are six realms um that you can

1517
00:53:35,349 --> 00:53:33,839
that you can incarnate into

1518
00:53:36,950 --> 00:53:35,359
so this goes back to the idea we're

1519
00:53:38,470 --> 00:53:36,960
talking about reincarnation and karma

1520
00:53:42,069 --> 00:53:38,480
what you did in your previous life

1521
00:53:45,270 --> 00:53:42,079
etc based on

1522
00:53:46,549 --> 00:53:45,280
where you lie on the karmic scale

1523
00:53:48,470 --> 00:53:46,559
that tells you where you're going to

1524
00:53:51,109 --> 00:53:48,480
reincarnate into

1525
00:53:52,150 --> 00:53:51,119
so there are six realms as i said and

1526
00:53:54,230 --> 00:53:52,160
each realm

1527
00:53:55,510 --> 00:53:54,240
um can i in some of the realms can be

1528
00:53:57,990 --> 00:53:55,520
broken down even

1529
00:53:59,829 --> 00:53:58,000
further but just in general you're

1530
00:54:02,870 --> 00:53:59,839
looking at

1531
00:54:03,829 --> 00:54:02,880
naraka which is the hell realm you're

1532
00:54:05,589 --> 00:54:03,839
looking at preeta

1533
00:54:07,990 --> 00:54:05,599
which is i was gonna ask you this so

1534
00:54:08,470 --> 00:54:08,000
they have they have their versions of

1535
00:54:11,430 --> 00:54:08,480
heaven

1536
00:54:12,230 --> 00:54:11,440
and hell as well right so and then yes

1537
00:54:14,790 --> 00:54:12,240
exactly

1538
00:54:16,630 --> 00:54:14,800
so and you incre and then you basically

1539
00:54:18,069 --> 00:54:16,640
incarnate into whatever level and you're

1540
00:54:20,549 --> 00:54:18,079
there for

1541
00:54:22,470 --> 00:54:20,559
in a certain period of time and then you

1542
00:54:24,069 --> 00:54:22,480
basically reincarnate again and then

1543
00:54:25,829 --> 00:54:24,079
based on how you did you'll either go

1544
00:54:26,549 --> 00:54:25,839
higher or lower that's basically the

1545
00:54:29,430 --> 00:54:26,559
idea

1546
00:54:30,309 --> 00:54:29,440
and within buddhism the human realm is

1547
00:54:33,670 --> 00:54:30,319
the second

1548
00:54:35,910 --> 00:54:33,680
or third from the top so

1549
00:54:37,750 --> 00:54:35,920
in that third from the top region though

1550
00:54:39,510 --> 00:54:37,760
we're considered to be kind of in that

1551
00:54:42,950 --> 00:54:39,520
sweet spot

1552
00:54:45,349 --> 00:54:42,960
the goldilocks zone so to speak okay

1553
00:54:46,549 --> 00:54:45,359
now we're the only we're the it's

1554
00:54:48,630 --> 00:54:46,559
easiest from the

1555
00:54:50,829 --> 00:54:48,640
human realm where we are now to

1556
00:54:54,710 --> 00:54:50,839
basically achieve

1557
00:54:57,910 --> 00:54:54,720
um samsara to be released to get nirvana

1558
00:54:59,670 --> 00:54:57,920
directly as a human you can do that if

1559
00:55:02,150 --> 00:54:59,680
you're in one of the lower realms like

1560
00:55:04,950 --> 00:55:02,160
the animal realm the hungry ghost realm

1561
00:55:05,990 --> 00:55:04,960
or the hell realm the hungry ghost realm

1562
00:55:09,109 --> 00:55:06,000
is interesting to me

1563
00:55:10,150 --> 00:55:09,119
because i read a story about one of

1564
00:55:13,430 --> 00:55:10,160
buddha's

1565
00:55:15,990 --> 00:55:13,440
closest disciples or best disciples who

1566
00:55:17,190 --> 00:55:16,000
somehow he knew that his mother had died

1567
00:55:20,230 --> 00:55:17,200
and gone to hell

1568
00:55:22,069 --> 00:55:20,240
or the hungry ghost realm and he used

1569
00:55:24,150 --> 00:55:22,079
his supernatural powers to descend into

1570
00:55:24,950 --> 00:55:24,160
hell to try to save her but was unable

1571
00:55:32,069 --> 00:55:24,960
to

1572
00:55:34,069 --> 00:55:32,079
mother so

1573
00:55:35,990 --> 00:55:34,079
the hungry ghost realm can explain a

1574
00:55:39,750 --> 00:55:36,000
little more about that

1575
00:55:42,470 --> 00:55:39,760
yeah so the hungry ghosts um

1576
00:55:43,109 --> 00:55:42,480
realm are demon-like creatures so

1577
00:55:44,710 --> 00:55:43,119
they're not

1578
00:55:47,270 --> 00:55:44,720
i guess you could call them demons but

1579
00:55:50,950 --> 00:55:47,280
they're not quite they're basically

1580
00:55:54,390 --> 00:55:50,960
in between a human and a demon um

1581
00:55:58,870 --> 00:55:54,400
they i guess is the best gary

1582
00:56:02,789 --> 00:56:01,190
yeah the thing is hungry ghosts actually

1583
00:56:05,190 --> 00:56:02,799
exist not only in buddhism but they also

1584
00:56:06,069 --> 00:56:05,200
exist in taoism hinduism sikhism and

1585
00:56:07,750 --> 00:56:06,079
jainism

1586
00:56:09,430 --> 00:56:07,760
so these are it exists in all of these

1587
00:56:12,150 --> 00:56:09,440
religions this idea

1588
00:56:12,630 --> 00:56:12,160
and it's the remnants of the dead that

1589
00:56:14,870 --> 00:56:12,640
are

1590
00:56:16,470 --> 00:56:14,880
afflicted with insatiable desire or

1591
00:56:20,069 --> 00:56:16,480
hunger because of

1592
00:56:22,789 --> 00:56:20,079
things that they did so say for example

1593
00:56:23,589 --> 00:56:22,799
if you were you stole food from a bunch

1594
00:56:25,829 --> 00:56:23,599
of people

1595
00:56:27,430 --> 00:56:25,839
you could be incarnate as a hungry ghost

1596
00:56:29,349 --> 00:56:27,440
and just never get enough

1597
00:56:30,789 --> 00:56:29,359
food like your mouth is too small and

1598
00:56:32,549 --> 00:56:30,799
you can't swallow

1599
00:56:34,230 --> 00:56:32,559
and isn't there festivals in places

1600
00:56:35,190 --> 00:56:34,240
where they leave food out for the hungry

1601
00:56:38,470 --> 00:56:35,200
ghosts

1602
00:56:41,750 --> 00:56:38,480
yes that's an interesting custom

1603
00:56:45,030 --> 00:56:41,760
like here don't haunt me here's a ham

1604
00:56:45,910 --> 00:56:45,040
you know yes exactly and the idea is

1605
00:56:47,510 --> 00:56:45,920
that they're trying

1606
00:56:49,349 --> 00:56:47,520
that you're trying to help them you're

1607
00:56:50,870 --> 00:56:49,359
trying to basically

1608
00:56:52,630 --> 00:56:50,880
help them to move on because that's the

1609
00:56:54,870 --> 00:56:52,640
whole idea you're trying to move on

1610
00:56:58,390 --> 00:56:54,880
you're trying to help them move on

1611
00:57:02,069 --> 00:56:58,400
um so the hungry ghosts that were really

1612
00:57:05,270 --> 00:57:03,990
it's where you don't want to be you're

1613
00:57:07,430 --> 00:57:05,280
not going to be

1614
00:57:08,549 --> 00:57:07,440
tortured so to speak the worst torture

1615
00:57:10,390 --> 00:57:08,559
you're going to get if you were to

1616
00:57:13,109 --> 00:57:10,400
incarnate as a hungry ghost

1617
00:57:14,150 --> 00:57:13,119
or interact with a hungry ghost is that

1618
00:57:18,150 --> 00:57:14,160
they can't eat

1619
00:57:19,670 --> 00:57:18,160
either when they eat it'll you know

1620
00:57:21,750 --> 00:57:19,680
like pirates of the caribbean turned to

1621
00:57:24,069 --> 00:57:21,760
ashes in their mouth or

1622
00:57:26,470 --> 00:57:24,079
you know they're just heard it turns it

1623
00:57:28,309 --> 00:57:26,480
turned to flame in this

1624
00:57:29,589 --> 00:57:28,319
disciples mother's mouth like he tried

1625
00:57:32,390 --> 00:57:29,599
to take her food and

1626
00:57:33,510 --> 00:57:32,400
turn to flame when she tried to eat so

1627
00:57:35,030 --> 00:57:33,520
that's definitely like if you're

1628
00:57:35,829 --> 00:57:35,040
starving and then somebody hands you

1629
00:57:37,510 --> 00:57:35,839
something to eat

1630
00:57:39,349 --> 00:57:37,520
that yeah that's definitely a form of

1631
00:57:42,150 --> 00:57:39,359
suffering so that this

1632
00:57:42,630 --> 00:57:42,160
but this hungry ghost realm is that the

1633
00:57:44,710 --> 00:57:42,640
same

1634
00:57:46,630 --> 00:57:44,720
sort of realm that most christians would

1635
00:57:49,670 --> 00:57:46,640
consider hell or is that a

1636
00:57:51,349 --> 00:57:49,680
difference that's a different one okay

1637
00:57:53,430 --> 00:57:51,359
i would say it's probably i guess if

1638
00:57:56,549 --> 00:57:53,440
you're gonna say i guess purgatory

1639
00:57:59,510 --> 00:57:56,559
where you're kind of not quite in hell

1640
00:58:00,390 --> 00:57:59,520
but you're almost there it's traffic

1641
00:58:02,630 --> 00:58:00,400
dream worlds

1642
00:58:04,230 --> 00:58:02,640
okay okay so i understand more about

1643
00:58:05,510 --> 00:58:04,240
this hungry ghost realm and this is the

1644
00:58:08,630 --> 00:58:05,520
place where some

1645
00:58:10,309 --> 00:58:08,640
uh souls after they die they go there

1646
00:58:12,710 --> 00:58:10,319
instead to a better place right

1647
00:58:13,829 --> 00:58:12,720
right depends on basically how you acted

1648
00:58:17,190 --> 00:58:13,839
if you

1649
00:58:19,510 --> 00:58:17,200
young individual

1650
00:58:20,789 --> 00:58:19,520
that is not that great say you shoplift

1651
00:58:22,950 --> 00:58:20,799
right

1652
00:58:25,270 --> 00:58:22,960
it's more likely than not that if you're

1653
00:58:27,270 --> 00:58:25,280
like 17 and you shoplift

1654
00:58:28,950 --> 00:58:27,280
that that karma isn't going to go into

1655
00:58:30,710 --> 00:58:28,960
your next life you'll probably clear it

1656
00:58:32,150 --> 00:58:30,720
before you die

1657
00:58:34,150 --> 00:58:32,160
because sometimes you can clear karma in

1658
00:58:36,230 --> 00:58:34,160
the same life

1659
00:58:37,670 --> 00:58:36,240
if you're lucky if you atone for your

1660
00:58:39,829 --> 00:58:37,680
sins and yeah

1661
00:58:41,910 --> 00:58:39,839
forgiveness right clear it and then

1662
00:58:43,510 --> 00:58:41,920
whatever yeah i'm real big on trying to

1663
00:58:46,150 --> 00:58:43,520
get that karmic wheel right

1664
00:58:46,870 --> 00:58:46,160
like if i do something wrong i'm you

1665
00:58:49,349 --> 00:58:46,880
know

1666
00:58:51,030 --> 00:58:49,359
i'm all too human but i do try to like

1667
00:58:53,670 --> 00:58:51,040
make amends right

1668
00:58:55,349 --> 00:58:53,680
yeah so i don't want to pay for that in

1669
00:58:58,390 --> 00:58:55,359
the next life i want to get it

1670
00:58:59,030 --> 00:58:58,400
you know resolved right now so you were

1671
00:59:02,390 --> 00:58:59,040
talking about

1672
00:59:06,230 --> 00:59:02,400
is it it's seven realms right

1673
00:59:07,829 --> 00:59:06,240
six so the hungry ghost realm is right

1674
00:59:09,750 --> 00:59:07,839
above the hell realm the hungry ghost

1675
00:59:11,589 --> 00:59:09,760
you're going to go there if you're

1676
00:59:13,270 --> 00:59:11,599
basically a glutton if you're trying to

1677
00:59:14,630 --> 00:59:13,280
hoard money you're not generous or you

1678
00:59:15,750 --> 00:59:14,640
steal from people those are things that

1679
00:59:16,710 --> 00:59:15,760
are going to get you there because

1680
00:59:18,390 --> 00:59:16,720
you're

1681
00:59:19,750 --> 00:59:18,400
it's like you have an insatiable hunger

1682
00:59:20,870 --> 00:59:19,760
in your real life so you're now going to

1683
00:59:22,950 --> 00:59:20,880
be punished in your

1684
00:59:24,069 --> 00:59:22,960
afterlife and this is what christians

1685
00:59:27,510 --> 00:59:24,079
would generally call

1686
00:59:30,069 --> 00:59:27,520
venial sins or minor sins but i guess

1687
00:59:31,910 --> 00:59:30,079
do buddhists believe if you commit major

1688
00:59:33,510 --> 00:59:31,920
sins or mortal sins then you go to the

1689
00:59:36,150 --> 00:59:33,520
hell realm after you die

1690
00:59:37,510 --> 00:59:36,160
correct yes so if you murder someone if

1691
00:59:40,549 --> 00:59:37,520
you

1692
00:59:42,390 --> 00:59:40,559
is the hell realm

1693
00:59:43,990 --> 00:59:42,400
which actually has different levels

1694
00:59:46,069 --> 00:59:44,000
within itself so now you're looking at

1695
00:59:48,069 --> 00:59:46,079
dante's inferno almost

1696
00:59:49,670 --> 00:59:48,079
but uh yeah that's interesting i've seen

1697
00:59:50,870 --> 00:59:49,680
this description and it reminded me of

1698
00:59:52,789 --> 00:59:50,880
dante's inferno

1699
00:59:54,630 --> 00:59:52,799
like different levels of suffering

1700
00:59:57,190 --> 00:59:54,640
depending on how bad you were

1701
00:59:58,470 --> 00:59:57,200
right so like the nicest version of it

1702
01:00:00,950 --> 00:59:58,480
which is funny is one of the

1703
01:00:02,710 --> 01:00:00,960
because it goes so there's two different

1704
01:00:03,589 --> 01:00:02,720
sections of the hell realms there's the

1705
01:00:06,870 --> 01:00:03,599
cold health

1706
01:00:07,670 --> 01:00:06,880
and then there's the hot health so the

1707
01:00:09,030 --> 01:00:07,680
cold hell

1708
01:00:10,470 --> 01:00:09,040
is where it is basically like the

1709
01:00:12,309 --> 01:00:10,480
lightest versions and then you kind of

1710
01:00:13,430 --> 01:00:12,319
descend farther and farther so you're

1711
01:00:15,750 --> 01:00:13,440
starting at

1712
01:00:16,710 --> 01:00:15,760
well the hell of freezing wall your

1713
01:00:19,829 --> 01:00:16,720
blisters break

1714
01:00:21,829 --> 01:00:19,839
open which is really gross is that

1715
01:00:23,430 --> 01:00:21,839
appealing yeah

1716
01:00:24,950 --> 01:00:23,440
freezing and you're covered in blisters

1717
01:00:26,069 --> 01:00:24,960
and then they open and then they freeze

1718
01:00:27,030 --> 01:00:26,079
and then you're covered with frozen

1719
01:00:30,470 --> 01:00:27,040
blood influx

1720
01:00:32,630 --> 01:00:30,480
that's gross but that's what it is

1721
01:00:33,910 --> 01:00:32,640
okay you start there and that's the

1722
01:00:35,910 --> 01:00:33,920
nicest version

1723
01:00:37,030 --> 01:00:35,920
and then you go into shivering and

1724
01:00:39,670 --> 01:00:37,040
moaning and teeth

1725
01:00:40,309 --> 01:00:39,680
and turning blue and all sorts of stuff

1726
01:00:44,069 --> 01:00:40,319
but then

1727
01:00:46,309 --> 01:00:44,079
you move into the deeper hell realms

1728
01:00:48,309 --> 01:00:46,319
and then they kind of they get kind of

1729
01:00:49,990 --> 01:00:48,319
bad i mean you get hell of

1730
01:00:51,829 --> 01:00:50,000
reviving or repeated attacks where

1731
01:00:52,390 --> 01:00:51,839
basically you kind of get destroyed and

1732
01:00:54,309 --> 01:00:52,400
then

1733
01:00:56,230 --> 01:00:54,319
you they bring you back together you get

1734
01:00:58,710 --> 01:00:56,240
sliced into pieces or smooshed

1735
01:00:59,349 --> 01:00:58,720
and then you reconstitute like you can

1736
01:01:02,069 --> 01:00:59,359
do it again

1737
01:01:03,670 --> 01:01:02,079
yeah again there's ones where big giant

1738
01:01:05,510 --> 01:01:03,680
hot things just crush you

1739
01:01:07,589 --> 01:01:05,520
there's ones where you scream and run

1740
01:01:08,789 --> 01:01:07,599
around on burning ground

1741
01:01:11,030 --> 01:01:08,799
there's one where you're screaming and

1742
01:01:13,109 --> 01:01:11,040
you're being eaten by animals

1743
01:01:15,270 --> 01:01:13,119
um but the worst one i think is

1744
01:01:16,470 --> 01:01:15,280
supposedly the hell without interruption

1745
01:01:19,750 --> 01:01:16,480
while being roasted in an

1746
01:01:24,230 --> 01:01:19,760
oven nice which

1747
01:01:27,030 --> 01:01:24,240
lasts for

1748
01:01:28,470 --> 01:01:27,040
at least three thousand years don't

1749
01:01:30,870 --> 01:01:28,480
forgive me if i'm wrong but

1750
01:01:31,750 --> 01:01:30,880
isn't it isn't it to believe though that

1751
01:01:33,670 --> 01:01:31,760
eventually

1752
01:01:35,030 --> 01:01:33,680
if if you're buddhist and you do end up

1753
01:01:37,030 --> 01:01:35,040
in this hell realm you

1754
01:01:38,789 --> 01:01:37,040
you atone for whatever while you're in

1755
01:01:41,190 --> 01:01:38,799
the hell realm and then you go on

1756
01:01:42,789 --> 01:01:41,200
to be reincarnated again right and you

1757
01:01:43,990 --> 01:01:42,799
reincarnate into a higher order and see

1758
01:01:44,950 --> 01:01:44,000
that's a big difference because in

1759
01:01:47,109 --> 01:01:44,960
christianity

1760
01:01:48,710 --> 01:01:47,119
you're there's no checking out you're

1761
01:01:50,549 --> 01:01:48,720
there forever it's also interesting to

1762
01:01:52,470 --> 01:01:50,559
me then christianity we don't get a real

1763
01:01:54,309 --> 01:01:52,480
big description of what happens in hell

1764
01:01:55,750 --> 01:01:54,319
just the general priest is like you're

1765
01:01:59,029 --> 01:01:55,760
going to burn in hell

1766
01:02:01,670 --> 01:01:59,039
yeah that's it we don't get like

1767
01:02:03,829 --> 01:02:01,680
you guys are much more descriptive yeah

1768
01:02:06,950 --> 01:02:03,839
you have swords

1769
01:02:08,630 --> 01:02:06,960
of being burned in an oven

1770
01:02:10,950 --> 01:02:08,640
but after that you can reincarnate and

1771
01:02:13,510 --> 01:02:10,960
maybe you won't be in an oven next time

1772
01:02:14,630 --> 01:02:13,520
it's kind of like how it is yeah that's

1773
01:02:16,789 --> 01:02:14,640
pretty interesting

1774
01:02:17,670 --> 01:02:16,799
there's actually one of the stories is

1775
01:02:20,789 --> 01:02:17,680
that buddha had

1776
01:02:22,309 --> 01:02:20,799
actually created it actually um in one

1777
01:02:25,029 --> 01:02:22,319
of his previous lives

1778
01:02:25,990 --> 01:02:25,039
committed a mortal sin was sent to one

1779
01:02:29,190 --> 01:02:26,000
of the hell realms

1780
01:02:30,390 --> 01:02:29,200
so buddha himself has been in the hell

1781
01:02:32,230 --> 01:02:30,400
realm

1782
01:02:35,109 --> 01:02:32,240
somebody understood the suffering of

1783
01:02:39,990 --> 01:02:38,150
and had basically dedicated himself

1784
01:02:41,990 --> 01:02:40,000
while in the hell realm to be while he

1785
01:02:43,430 --> 01:02:42,000
was suffering to still help other people

1786
01:02:44,950 --> 01:02:43,440
be a better person

1787
01:02:47,029 --> 01:02:44,960
and really commit himself to that that

1788
01:02:49,910 --> 01:02:47,039
he's one of the only

1789
01:02:51,430 --> 01:02:49,920
individuals who has been able to go and

1790
01:02:52,150 --> 01:02:51,440
incarnate from a whole realm directly

1791
01:02:54,710 --> 01:02:52,160
into

1792
01:02:56,549 --> 01:02:54,720
the human realm and skipping the hungry

1793
01:02:59,349 --> 01:02:56,559
ghosts skipping the animals and going

1794
01:03:02,069 --> 01:02:59,359
straight from there to humans

1795
01:03:02,470 --> 01:03:02,079
so it's possible and the thing is that

1796
01:03:04,309 --> 01:03:02,480
so

1797
01:03:06,069 --> 01:03:04,319
the only other individual i've read

1798
01:03:07,430 --> 01:03:06,079
about that supposedly has done that is

1799
01:03:09,270 --> 01:03:07,440
also kuan yin

1800
01:03:10,870 --> 01:03:09,280
who was sent to a hell room not because

1801
01:03:11,430 --> 01:03:10,880
she did anything wrong but it was

1802
01:03:14,470 --> 01:03:11,440
because

1803
01:03:17,270 --> 01:03:14,480
she was murdered

1804
01:03:18,789 --> 01:03:17,280
um but didn't want the person who the

1805
01:03:20,069 --> 01:03:18,799
person who murdered her was hired to

1806
01:03:21,589 --> 01:03:20,079
murder her

1807
01:03:23,349 --> 01:03:21,599
she didn't want them to suffer for that

1808
01:03:24,710 --> 01:03:23,359
she didn't want her

1809
01:03:27,430 --> 01:03:24,720
she took that yeah i've read this i've

1810
01:03:28,789 --> 01:03:27,440
read about this that's an extreme act of

1811
01:03:31,990 --> 01:03:28,799
compassion if you ever

1812
01:03:33,829 --> 01:03:32,000
you know that's just a lesson in

1813
01:03:35,349 --> 01:03:33,839
compassion too because how could

1814
01:03:36,710 --> 01:03:35,359
how could you be so compassionate with

1815
01:03:38,230 --> 01:03:36,720
somebody that ended your life but

1816
01:03:40,630 --> 01:03:38,240
apparently she was

1817
01:03:42,150 --> 01:03:40,640
see i like the lessons that can be

1818
01:03:43,190 --> 01:03:42,160
gained from some of these stories and

1819
01:03:44,870 --> 01:03:43,200
myths

1820
01:03:46,549 --> 01:03:44,880
you know i mean we can all stand to be

1821
01:03:48,470 --> 01:03:46,559
more compassionate but that's an extreme

1822
01:03:51,510 --> 01:03:48,480
level of compassion

1823
01:03:54,309 --> 01:03:51,520
yes yeah so we've been through then the

1824
01:03:56,950 --> 01:03:54,319
the hell realm the hungry ghost realm

1825
01:03:58,710 --> 01:03:56,960
and the earth realm is where we are

1826
01:04:00,150 --> 01:03:58,720
where we are now we're in the human

1827
01:04:01,990 --> 01:04:00,160
realm human realm

1828
01:04:03,510 --> 01:04:02,000
and so there would be three above that

1829
01:04:06,390 --> 01:04:03,520
then right yeah

1830
01:04:06,789 --> 01:04:06,400
so you're well there's two above us so

1831
01:04:09,029 --> 01:04:06,799
there's

1832
01:04:11,029 --> 01:04:09,039
three below us so actually between the

1833
01:04:13,349 --> 01:04:11,039
hungry ghosts and us are the animals

1834
01:04:15,109 --> 01:04:13,359
oh the animal realm yeah which is why

1835
01:04:15,670 --> 01:04:15,119
and because we're so close we can see

1836
01:04:16,870 --> 01:04:15,680
each other

1837
01:04:18,470 --> 01:04:16,880
a lot of these realms there's not a

1838
01:04:19,910 --> 01:04:18,480
crossover where you can kind of interact

1839
01:04:22,390 --> 01:04:19,920
with each other

1840
01:04:23,990 --> 01:04:22,400
the human and the animals can interact

1841
01:04:25,910 --> 01:04:24,000
with each other just like

1842
01:04:27,109 --> 01:04:25,920
the two above us can interact with each

1843
01:04:29,910 --> 01:04:27,119
other

1844
01:04:31,270 --> 01:04:29,920
but um so one of the reasons why

1845
01:04:35,109 --> 01:04:31,280
buddhism places such

1846
01:04:36,549 --> 01:04:35,119
a huge focus on not hurting animals and

1847
01:04:38,309 --> 01:04:36,559
being a vegetarian

1848
01:04:40,710 --> 01:04:38,319
is because we're so close to the realm

1849
01:04:44,150 --> 01:04:40,720
of the animals with the idea of

1850
01:04:46,309 --> 01:04:44,160
if you kill that spider

1851
01:04:48,069 --> 01:04:46,319
you're you have a problem because it's

1852
01:04:49,910 --> 01:04:48,079
more likely than not that either that

1853
01:04:51,029 --> 01:04:49,920
spider was your mom in a previous life

1854
01:04:54,870 --> 01:04:51,039
or is

1855
01:04:56,390 --> 01:04:54,880
your child in a previous that's scary

1856
01:04:59,430 --> 01:04:56,400
that would make me think twice before

1857
01:05:00,549 --> 01:04:59,440
sweating spiders at my cabin that could

1858
01:05:03,430 --> 01:05:00,559
be my

1859
01:05:04,630 --> 01:05:03,440
relative a relative from a previous life

1860
01:05:06,630 --> 01:05:04,640
or even one that you know

1861
01:05:07,910 --> 01:05:06,640
or even someone that you knew earlier in

1862
01:05:08,870 --> 01:05:07,920
this life that passed and is

1863
01:05:10,950 --> 01:05:08,880
reincarnated

1864
01:05:13,990 --> 01:05:10,960
so that's why there's i'm just going to

1865
01:05:18,789 --> 01:05:14,000
throw them outside then

1866
01:05:24,710 --> 01:05:22,710
yeah middle of nowhere so yeah

1867
01:05:26,470 --> 01:05:24,720
yeah that's so that's why that and that

1868
01:05:27,190 --> 01:05:26,480
there's that big connection is because

1869
01:05:29,990 --> 01:05:27,200
of that

1870
01:05:32,069 --> 01:05:30,000
so it goes the hell realm the hungry

1871
01:05:34,069 --> 01:05:32,079
ghosts the animals and then the humans

1872
01:05:35,510 --> 01:05:34,079
and then above us are what we're going

1873
01:05:38,549 --> 01:05:35,520
to talk about the

1874
01:05:41,589 --> 01:05:38,559
demigods so to speak or

1875
01:05:43,029 --> 01:05:41,599
angelic people but here's the thing this

1876
01:05:44,549 --> 01:05:43,039
is actually might be one of my favorite

1877
01:05:46,870 --> 01:05:44,559
things about this

1878
01:05:47,910 --> 01:05:46,880
is that the asura realm which is the one

1879
01:05:51,109 --> 01:05:47,920
that's right above us

1880
01:05:52,789 --> 01:05:51,119
in the demigods so they can interact

1881
01:05:55,990 --> 01:05:52,799
with the god-like beings

1882
01:05:57,270 --> 01:05:56,000
for one but the other thing i like about

1883
01:05:57,990 --> 01:05:57,280
it is the fact that they're not

1884
01:06:00,150 --> 01:05:58,000
considered

1885
01:06:02,069 --> 01:06:00,160
perfect just like sometimes you hear

1886
01:06:03,829 --> 01:06:02,079
people talk about angels and they have

1887
01:06:06,630 --> 01:06:03,839
you know jealousy or they have these

1888
01:06:09,750 --> 01:06:06,640
feelings even though they shouldn't

1889
01:06:11,510 --> 01:06:09,760
the demigods are very similar in that

1890
01:06:14,630 --> 01:06:11,520
because they can interact with the

1891
01:06:16,789 --> 01:06:14,640
god-like beings they have jealousy

1892
01:06:17,670 --> 01:06:16,799
because they can they're not at that

1893
01:06:21,349 --> 01:06:17,680
level

1894
01:06:23,510 --> 01:06:21,359
so they actually are not perfect um and

1895
01:06:24,789 --> 01:06:23,520
it's easy to slide from that realm into

1896
01:06:27,750 --> 01:06:24,799
the human realm because you can make a

1897
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:33,029
because things are too easy so remember

1898
01:06:36,230 --> 01:06:35,270
the reason that humanity that as a human

1899
01:06:38,230 --> 01:06:36,240
it's easy to

1900
01:06:40,309 --> 01:06:38,240
basically achieve nirvana is because

1901
01:06:41,349 --> 01:06:40,319
you're suffering a little bit but not

1902
01:06:42,630 --> 01:06:41,359
too much

1903
01:06:44,950 --> 01:06:42,640
if you're an animal or the other one

1904
01:06:46,630 --> 01:06:44,960
you're suffering too much to be able to

1905
01:06:48,309 --> 01:06:46,640
developing yourself spiritually and

1906
01:06:51,349 --> 01:06:48,319
being able to achieve that

1907
01:06:52,069 --> 01:06:51,359
if you are an asura or a deva which are

1908
01:06:56,309 --> 01:06:52,079
the two above

1909
01:06:58,789 --> 01:06:56,319
us you are basically in such a nice

1910
01:07:00,470 --> 01:06:58,799
kind of state of being that you don't

1911
01:07:03,670 --> 01:07:00,480
focus on it

1912
01:07:04,789 --> 01:07:03,680
so then you end up accumulating karma

1913
01:07:06,789 --> 01:07:04,799
and then backsliding

1914
01:07:09,270 --> 01:07:06,799
and then basically ending up a human and

1915
01:07:12,710 --> 01:07:09,280
then you just keep going in cycles

1916
01:07:15,910 --> 01:07:12,720
this makes sense so

1917
01:07:18,230 --> 01:07:15,920
what about these beings above us

1918
01:07:21,589 --> 01:07:18,240
as they do they interact with people

1919
01:07:24,710 --> 01:07:21,599
what is their relationship with humans

1920
01:07:27,589 --> 01:07:24,720
so they don't really

1921
01:07:29,349 --> 01:07:27,599
interact too much with with humans um

1922
01:07:31,270 --> 01:07:29,359
because they're in a different

1923
01:07:32,950 --> 01:07:31,280
i guess if you were gonna say like

1924
01:07:35,990 --> 01:07:32,960
dimension or vibration

1925
01:07:36,789 --> 01:07:36,000
if you're gonna yeah no all right we're

1926
01:07:38,069 --> 01:07:36,799
turning

1927
01:07:40,829 --> 01:07:38,079
i've been saying we're gonna turn the

1928
01:07:42,549 --> 01:07:40,839
wound meter up here so this makes sense

1929
01:07:43,990 --> 01:07:42,559
then they're in a different dimension so

1930
01:07:44,390 --> 01:07:44,000
they don't really interact with us that

1931
01:07:48,870 --> 01:07:44,400
that's

1932
01:07:52,710 --> 01:07:48,880
in christianity

1933
01:07:55,510 --> 01:07:52,720
uh angels and demons will

1934
01:07:57,510 --> 01:07:55,520
interact with people on a pretty regular

1935
01:07:59,750 --> 01:07:57,520
you know like the angels will come

1936
01:08:00,870 --> 01:07:59,760
angels of mercy will come angels that

1937
01:08:03,910 --> 01:08:00,880
are messengers

1938
01:08:05,910 --> 01:08:03,920
is the most common they're not really

1939
01:08:07,270 --> 01:08:05,920
they're just sent by god to give a

1940
01:08:10,710 --> 01:08:07,280
message to

1941
01:08:12,870 --> 01:08:10,720
a human or whatever but demons as well

1942
01:08:14,470 --> 01:08:12,880
sort of interact with or possess people

1943
01:08:20,390 --> 01:08:14,480
or

1944
01:08:21,990 --> 01:08:20,400
very real thing in christianity

1945
01:08:23,510 --> 01:08:22,000
so i guess there's a difference there's

1946
01:08:24,229 --> 01:08:23,520
not as much interaction with the

1947
01:08:27,110 --> 01:08:24,239
buddhists

1948
01:08:28,070 --> 01:08:27,120
demons and angels no they're interacting

1949
01:08:30,870 --> 01:08:28,080
with each other

1950
01:08:31,990 --> 01:08:30,880
they're not interacting with us so what

1951
01:08:34,630 --> 01:08:32,000
the asura

1952
01:08:36,390 --> 01:08:34,640
once occupied this thing like they're in

1953
01:08:37,829 --> 01:08:36,400
the same vibe they're in that same area

1954
01:08:39,110 --> 01:08:37,839
as each other they can see each other

1955
01:08:40,470 --> 01:08:39,120
and interact like we can with the

1956
01:08:41,990 --> 01:08:40,480
animals

1957
01:08:43,590 --> 01:08:42,000
so those jealous gods and then the

1958
01:08:45,189 --> 01:08:43,600
god-like beings they can interact with

1959
01:08:46,789 --> 01:08:45,199
each other but those jealous gods the

1960
01:08:48,630 --> 01:08:46,799
asura

1961
01:08:50,229 --> 01:08:48,640
used to actually be on the exact same

1962
01:08:52,709 --> 01:08:50,239
level

1963
01:08:54,070 --> 01:08:52,719
um but through because they're jealous

1964
01:08:56,870 --> 01:08:54,080
and they're constantly fighting and

1965
01:08:59,749 --> 01:08:56,880
trying to take over the deva

1966
01:09:01,030 --> 01:08:59,759
that they uh basically got kicked down

1967
01:09:02,470 --> 01:09:01,040
and on

1968
01:09:04,870 --> 01:09:02,480
so there's this constant struggle

1969
01:09:08,309 --> 01:09:04,880
between them to kind of

1970
01:09:10,789 --> 01:09:08,319
be able to be superior

1971
01:09:13,510 --> 01:09:10,799
well that's interesting some people

1972
01:09:17,910 --> 01:09:13,520
consider actually the asuras to be

1973
01:09:22,229 --> 01:09:20,470
than angel-like because they may have

1974
01:09:23,910 --> 01:09:22,239
committed sins but it's more about their

1975
01:09:25,669 --> 01:09:23,920
intentions they had good intentions but

1976
01:09:28,709 --> 01:09:25,679
messed it up

1977
01:09:31,030 --> 01:09:28,719
if that makes sense sure sure and so

1978
01:09:32,870 --> 01:09:31,040
the divas would be the higher yeah

1979
01:09:34,709 --> 01:09:32,880
spirit programs and can you tell us a

1980
01:09:35,669 --> 01:09:34,719
little more about them and their nature

1981
01:09:38,950 --> 01:09:35,679
and their relationship

1982
01:09:42,309 --> 01:09:38,960
to man and is there prayers

1983
01:09:44,950 --> 01:09:42,319
to them or is there appeals to them for

1984
01:09:46,550 --> 01:09:44,960
not really to be honest there's you

1985
01:09:48,789 --> 01:09:46,560
don't really appeal to them because

1986
01:09:51,110 --> 01:09:48,799
really they're not

1987
01:09:52,630 --> 01:09:51,120
while they're on a higher realm than you

1988
01:09:53,669 --> 01:09:52,640
they're not really considered that

1989
01:09:55,750 --> 01:09:53,679
different from you

1990
01:09:57,110 --> 01:09:55,760
they're just considered to be like a

1991
01:10:00,149 --> 01:09:57,120
human that has way less

1992
01:10:05,030 --> 01:10:00,159
physically better karma

1993
01:10:09,830 --> 01:10:08,310
so yeah i guess that was another thing

1994
01:10:12,310 --> 01:10:09,840
that was confusing to me coming from a

1995
01:10:13,910 --> 01:10:12,320
catholic background is that

1996
01:10:16,070 --> 01:10:13,920
sometimes the lecturers would talk about

1997
01:10:18,310 --> 01:10:16,080
these spiritual entities

1998
01:10:20,630 --> 01:10:18,320
but i was confused by the fact that

1999
01:10:21,430 --> 01:10:20,640
there wasn't like prayers to specific

2000
01:10:25,270 --> 01:10:21,440
deities

2001
01:10:27,189 --> 01:10:25,280
or i mean there are prayers to specific

2002
01:10:29,110 --> 01:10:27,199
there are some yeah right there are but

2003
01:10:32,550 --> 01:10:29,120
it's just so much less common

2004
01:10:36,229 --> 01:10:32,560
than christian where we have

2005
01:10:38,070 --> 01:10:36,239
all these different saints and like

2006
01:10:39,830 --> 01:10:38,080
my favorite example is saint anthony

2007
01:10:42,149 --> 01:10:39,840
there's a prayer to saint anthony when

2008
01:10:44,630 --> 01:10:42,159
you lose something

2009
01:10:45,189 --> 01:10:44,640
and it's something stupid and i swear by

2010
01:10:46,870 --> 01:10:45,199
it though

2011
01:10:48,550 --> 01:10:46,880
you say saint anthony saint anthony

2012
01:10:50,310 --> 01:10:48,560
please come down something is lost and

2013
01:10:51,189 --> 01:10:50,320
cannot be found so you're appealing to

2014
01:10:54,709 --> 01:10:51,199
saint anthony

2015
01:10:56,390 --> 01:10:54,719
to help you find your lost keys and uh

2016
01:10:57,830 --> 01:10:56,400
and and different there's just so many

2017
01:10:59,189 --> 01:10:57,840
different no matter what's going on like

2018
01:11:00,790 --> 01:10:59,199
saint jude is for

2019
01:11:02,550 --> 01:11:00,800
hopeless cases like if people have

2020
01:11:05,430 --> 01:11:02,560
cancer they pray to saint jude

2021
01:11:06,790 --> 01:11:05,440
if they're told it's terminal or you

2022
01:11:08,950 --> 01:11:06,800
know whatever

2023
01:11:11,590 --> 01:11:08,960
there's all of these different prayers

2024
01:11:15,189 --> 01:11:13,030
we call them saints but really just

2025
01:11:17,510 --> 01:11:15,199
spiritual entities or energies

2026
01:11:19,669 --> 01:11:17,520
for different things that you need or

2027
01:11:20,870 --> 01:11:19,679
whatever but i didn't see that really

2028
01:11:24,709 --> 01:11:20,880
too much in buddhism

2029
01:11:27,590 --> 01:11:24,719
i didn't see like okay uh if you're uh

2030
01:11:28,310 --> 01:11:27,600
if you're poor you pray to this deity

2031
01:11:29,990 --> 01:11:28,320
and if you

2032
01:11:31,590 --> 01:11:30,000
can't find your keys you pray to this

2033
01:11:31,990 --> 01:11:31,600
you know what i mean you guys it's just

2034
01:11:34,950 --> 01:11:32,000
like

2035
01:11:37,270 --> 01:11:34,960
it's less it's less centered on praying

2036
01:11:39,030 --> 01:11:37,280
to specific deities and more on the self

2037
01:11:47,830 --> 01:11:39,040
and

2038
01:11:49,669 --> 01:11:47,840
because yeah there is that side of it

2039
01:11:51,750 --> 01:11:49,679
but what i was gonna say is

2040
01:11:53,430 --> 01:11:51,760
that's where the chanting actually comes

2041
01:11:56,310 --> 01:11:53,440
into play

2042
01:11:58,790 --> 01:11:56,320
for those who chant um because the

2043
01:12:00,870 --> 01:11:58,800
chants that are being done are actually

2044
01:12:02,310 --> 01:12:00,880
what you're doing is you're calling upon

2045
01:12:03,510 --> 01:12:02,320
whatever deity you're trying to call

2046
01:12:05,990 --> 01:12:03,520
upon

2047
01:12:08,149 --> 01:12:06,000
so there's one for kuan yin there's one

2048
01:12:11,590 --> 01:12:08,159
for like for example amitabh buddha

2049
01:12:15,750 --> 01:12:11,600
in vietnamese there's a specific chant

2050
01:12:17,669 --> 01:12:15,760
that it says which is basically like i

2051
01:12:20,790 --> 01:12:17,679
call upon

2052
01:12:23,910 --> 01:12:20,800
you know buddha

2053
01:12:25,590 --> 01:12:23,920
in the light basically um and you

2054
01:12:28,310 --> 01:12:25,600
basically say it over and over again

2055
01:12:29,750 --> 01:12:28,320
and so the mala beads you've seen that

2056
01:12:32,470 --> 01:12:29,760
basically

2057
01:12:33,590 --> 01:12:32,480
yeah there be you're supposed to call

2058
01:12:35,350 --> 01:12:33,600
upon

2059
01:12:36,950 --> 01:12:35,360
the individual and it's kind of i guess

2060
01:12:38,310 --> 01:12:36,960
maybe like saying the rosary i'm not

2061
01:12:40,550 --> 01:12:38,320
entirely

2062
01:12:43,270 --> 01:12:40,560
knowledgeable it's not it's very similar

2063
01:12:46,229 --> 01:12:43,280
it's your big i was a big supporter of

2064
01:12:47,750 --> 01:12:46,239
praying a rosary even after i i don't

2065
01:12:48,950 --> 01:12:47,760
any longer consider myself catholic but

2066
01:12:51,669 --> 01:12:48,960
i still pray a rosary

2067
01:12:52,630 --> 01:12:51,679
sometimes because it's so to me it's so

2068
01:12:55,189 --> 01:12:52,640
like

2069
01:12:57,189 --> 01:12:55,199
meditative yes i was happy when i

2070
01:12:58,229 --> 01:12:57,199
learned about buddhists prayer beats

2071
01:12:59,990 --> 01:12:58,239
because i was like yes

2072
01:13:02,229 --> 01:13:00,000
there's something similar and it had a

2073
01:13:04,229 --> 01:13:02,239
similar i tried some of the stuff that

2074
01:13:07,270 --> 01:13:04,239
was suggested to me in a book and i have

2075
01:13:08,790 --> 01:13:07,280
some videos for using the prayer beads

2076
01:13:10,390 --> 01:13:08,800
and it was the same thing to me it seems

2077
01:13:10,790 --> 01:13:10,400
so much more meditative because you have

2078
01:13:13,990 --> 01:13:10,800
that

2079
01:13:16,229 --> 01:13:14,000
physical focus as you go through

2080
01:13:19,189 --> 01:13:16,239
and a way of counting the chance or

2081
01:13:21,189 --> 01:13:19,199
whatever it is you're doing

2082
01:13:22,950 --> 01:13:21,199
so yeah i mean because of that because

2083
01:13:24,870 --> 01:13:22,960
there that option is there for

2084
01:13:26,229 --> 01:13:24,880
for people not everybody does it but if

2085
01:13:27,830 --> 01:13:26,239
you decide to do it then

2086
01:13:29,030 --> 01:13:27,840
you are kind of feeling that same thing

2087
01:13:30,630 --> 01:13:29,040
because you're going to call upon kuan

2088
01:13:32,470 --> 01:13:30,640
yin for mercy to help you

2089
01:13:33,910 --> 01:13:32,480
you can call upon the universal buddha

2090
01:13:35,430 --> 01:13:33,920
to help you with whatever

2091
01:13:38,550 --> 01:13:35,440
um and you're gonna say there are

2092
01:13:40,630 --> 01:13:38,560
specific chants that you would say

2093
01:13:42,950 --> 01:13:40,640
so i mean it just kind of it depends

2094
01:13:45,350 --> 01:13:42,960
because again we're looking at buddhism

2095
01:13:46,870 --> 01:13:45,360
obviously if we haven't if people

2096
01:13:50,070 --> 01:13:46,880
haven't figured it out yet

2097
01:13:52,390 --> 01:13:50,080
it's very complex and gives it

2098
01:13:54,470 --> 01:13:52,400
gives a lot of flexibility that you take

2099
01:13:55,510 --> 01:13:54,480
what works for you and you kind of don't

2100
01:13:58,950 --> 01:13:55,520
use what you what

2101
01:14:00,070 --> 01:13:58,960
you don't need uh yeah which is another

2102
01:14:02,390 --> 01:14:00,080
surprising fact

2103
01:14:03,830 --> 01:14:02,400
or surprising thing to me about buddhism

2104
01:14:06,310 --> 01:14:03,840
coming from catholics because

2105
01:14:07,350 --> 01:14:06,320
they're very strict and this is the deal

2106
01:14:09,750 --> 01:14:07,360
and you're right

2107
01:14:11,350 --> 01:14:09,760
i think christianity is much simpler you

2108
01:14:13,990 --> 01:14:11,360
know i mean we have these 10

2109
01:14:15,110 --> 01:14:14,000
commandments don't do this 10 things and

2110
01:14:18,149 --> 01:14:15,120
you'll be good

2111
01:14:20,149 --> 01:14:18,159
and you know try to be a good person

2112
01:14:21,189 --> 01:14:20,159
don't kill anybody don't sleep with

2113
01:14:23,270 --> 01:14:21,199
somebody else's wife

2114
01:14:24,470 --> 01:14:23,280
these are all very logical and easy to

2115
01:14:27,669 --> 01:14:24,480
follow things

2116
01:14:29,510 --> 01:14:27,679
don't steal you know but uh

2117
01:14:31,189 --> 01:14:29,520
buddhism to me seemed to be much more

2118
01:14:33,350 --> 01:14:31,199
complex and

2119
01:14:35,030 --> 01:14:33,360
i also thought like it's a little it's a

2120
01:14:36,149 --> 01:14:35,040
lot more philosophical too because if

2121
01:14:38,229 --> 01:14:36,159
you ask

2122
01:14:39,669 --> 01:14:38,239
three monks the same question you'll get

2123
01:14:41,669 --> 01:14:39,679
three three different

2124
01:14:44,070 --> 01:14:41,679
answers but each of those answers that

2125
01:14:46,149 --> 01:14:44,080
they give seem like a good answer to me

2126
01:14:47,189 --> 01:14:46,159
so i was always a little bit confused

2127
01:14:50,630 --> 01:14:47,199
when i you know

2128
01:14:53,350 --> 01:14:50,640
had questions because there's not

2129
01:14:54,070 --> 01:14:53,360
there's not that set dogma to me so much

2130
01:14:55,669 --> 01:14:54,080
it's like you said

2131
01:14:57,350 --> 01:14:55,679
they'll let you take what works and

2132
01:14:59,830 --> 01:14:57,360
discard the rest

2133
01:15:01,270 --> 01:14:59,840
you know that's interesting to me that

2134
01:15:03,350 --> 01:15:01,280
you can get away with that but you can

2135
01:15:07,030 --> 01:15:03,360
do that

2136
01:15:09,030 --> 01:15:07,040
christianity you can't say you know

2137
01:15:10,470 --> 01:15:09,040
i i like this religion but i really

2138
01:15:13,110 --> 01:15:10,480
don't like this uh

2139
01:15:13,990 --> 01:15:13,120
not eating meat on fridays so we're not

2140
01:15:17,669 --> 01:15:14,000
going to do that

2141
01:15:19,270 --> 01:15:17,679
you know except for

2142
01:15:20,709 --> 01:15:19,280
i like i like this religion but i don't

2143
01:15:22,310 --> 01:15:20,719
like the holy spirit so we're not going

2144
01:15:23,990 --> 01:15:22,320
to have that or you know i'm not going

2145
01:15:25,669 --> 01:15:24,000
to deal with that you just it's it's all

2146
01:15:29,669 --> 01:15:25,679
chips in or nothing

2147
01:15:35,350 --> 01:15:29,679
you know yep or you're burning hell

2148
01:15:39,270 --> 01:15:36,830
i also found it to be a lot less

2149
01:15:42,470 --> 01:15:39,280
judgmental of people

2150
01:15:43,430 --> 01:15:42,480
you know it's like um

2151
01:15:45,030 --> 01:15:43,440
i don't know i think there's a lot of

2152
01:15:45,910 --> 01:15:45,040
shame involved in some things in

2153
01:15:49,669 --> 01:15:45,920
christianity

2154
01:15:51,590 --> 01:15:49,679
like you know and and uh

2155
01:15:52,950 --> 01:15:51,600
like i said the authoritarianism you

2156
01:15:54,550 --> 01:15:52,960
know you get on the bad side of your

2157
01:15:56,070 --> 01:15:54,560
local priest your family can get on the

2158
01:15:58,310 --> 01:15:56,080
bad side of your local priest

2159
01:15:59,350 --> 01:15:58,320
and everybody in your community knows it

2160
01:16:02,390 --> 01:15:59,360
you did something

2161
01:16:03,750 --> 01:16:02,400
some stupid slight you know some favor

2162
01:16:05,830 --> 01:16:03,760
you're supposed to do the church that

2163
01:16:06,310 --> 01:16:05,840
you did late or didn't do well enough or

2164
01:16:11,830 --> 01:16:06,320
yeah

2165
01:16:14,390 --> 01:16:11,840
we have these different realms and and

2166
01:16:17,590 --> 01:16:14,400
you've explained some of the deities but

2167
01:16:20,070 --> 01:16:17,600
one thing is we did talk about this

2168
01:16:22,149 --> 01:16:20,080
creator god sort of situation where it's

2169
01:16:23,270 --> 01:16:22,159
more of a source energy and you go back

2170
01:16:25,910 --> 01:16:23,280
to it

2171
01:16:26,950 --> 01:16:25,920
um and and we talked about how buddha

2172
01:16:28,950 --> 01:16:26,960
didn't really say

2173
01:16:30,310 --> 01:16:28,960
well he gave conflicting answers about

2174
01:16:33,910 --> 01:16:30,320
the existence of god

2175
01:16:36,709 --> 01:16:33,920
right but what i've always wondered is

2176
01:16:39,990 --> 01:16:36,719
or or can we talk about

2177
01:16:43,750 --> 01:16:40,000
jesus suddenly became

2178
01:16:45,189 --> 01:16:43,760
a god late you know there's some debate

2179
01:16:47,669 --> 01:16:45,199
some people believe that he never

2180
01:16:48,470 --> 01:16:47,679
claimed to be a deity or to be god he

2181
01:16:51,110 --> 01:16:48,480
claimed to be

2182
01:16:51,750 --> 01:16:51,120
a son of god and we're all sons of god

2183
01:16:52,950 --> 01:16:51,760
and that

2184
01:16:55,669 --> 01:16:52,960
some people believe he was just a

2185
01:16:59,270 --> 01:16:55,679
prophet but most christian

2186
01:17:02,310 --> 01:16:59,280
place him up there as god but buddha is

2187
01:17:05,669 --> 01:17:02,320
more of uh

2188
01:17:08,149 --> 01:17:05,679
human he's not he's not

2189
01:17:08,950 --> 01:17:08,159
he's not a god he's a human who achieved

2190
01:17:10,470 --> 01:17:08,960
enlightenment

2191
01:17:12,630 --> 01:17:10,480
can you talk a little bit about that and

2192
01:17:15,110 --> 01:17:12,640
the differences because

2193
01:17:17,350 --> 01:17:15,120
buddhists don't really worship buddha

2194
01:17:21,430 --> 01:17:17,360
right not like christians worship

2195
01:17:23,430 --> 01:17:21,440
jesus correct so

2196
01:17:25,189 --> 01:17:23,440
going back to this question of atheism

2197
01:17:27,510 --> 01:17:25,199
and buddhism

2198
01:17:28,870 --> 01:17:27,520
one of the one of the thoughts for a lot

2199
01:17:31,189 --> 01:17:28,880
of scholars who

2200
01:17:32,630 --> 01:17:31,199
who research buddhism and look at it

2201
01:17:34,229 --> 01:17:32,640
they think that the reason he gave

2202
01:17:35,830 --> 01:17:34,239
conflicting answers or wasn't quite

2203
01:17:37,030 --> 01:17:35,840
clear on whether or not there is a god

2204
01:17:38,950 --> 01:17:37,040
is because he didn't want to be

2205
01:17:40,630 --> 01:17:38,960
worshipped

2206
01:17:42,630 --> 01:17:40,640
um and that was one of the reasons why

2207
01:17:45,830 --> 01:17:42,640
that happened in that way

2208
01:17:48,870 --> 01:17:45,840
but yes um you are correct in that

2209
01:17:52,149 --> 01:17:48,880
um he's not treated

2210
01:17:54,870 --> 01:17:52,159
as a god he's treated as

2211
01:17:56,070 --> 01:17:54,880
a human the the basically is the

2212
01:17:58,070 --> 01:17:56,080
blueprint

2213
01:17:59,430 --> 01:17:58,080
for where you want to end up that's more

2214
01:18:00,950 --> 01:17:59,440
of how he's treated

2215
01:18:02,870 --> 01:18:00,960
you pray to him but you're not praying

2216
01:18:04,550 --> 01:18:02,880
to him to give you magic and riches and

2217
01:18:08,149 --> 01:18:04,560
to do all those things and to

2218
01:18:11,350 --> 01:18:08,159
save you you're praying to him

2219
01:18:13,189 --> 01:18:11,360
to kind of help you on your path

2220
01:18:15,270 --> 01:18:13,199
you're saying you were able to do it

2221
01:18:16,470 --> 01:18:15,280
help me to be able to do it help me to

2222
01:18:17,910 --> 01:18:16,480
figure this out

2223
01:18:20,790 --> 01:18:17,920
that's really what you're asking for

2224
01:18:23,910 --> 01:18:20,800
you're not asking for hey buddha can you

2225
01:18:27,189 --> 01:18:23,920
help me to get this job

2226
01:18:29,669 --> 01:18:27,199
it's hey buddha my how to it

2227
01:18:31,350 --> 01:18:29,679
you know kind of give me the ability to

2228
01:18:31,669 --> 01:18:31,360
kind of develop my life it's kind of

2229
01:18:34,630 --> 01:18:31,679
more

2230
01:18:35,750 --> 01:18:34,640
like that it's not he's not a god

2231
01:18:37,110 --> 01:18:35,760
because there's the acknowledgement of

2232
01:18:40,149 --> 01:18:37,120
there is not really a

2233
01:18:42,470 --> 01:18:40,159
specific god you go to a temple and yes

2234
01:18:43,830 --> 01:18:42,480
you'll see giant statues of buddha

2235
01:18:45,830 --> 01:18:43,840
you will see people praying light

2236
01:18:46,229 --> 01:18:45,840
incense but again they're asking more

2237
01:18:51,110 --> 01:18:46,239
for

2238
01:18:52,870 --> 01:18:51,120
in that same kind of way they're not

2239
01:18:55,110 --> 01:18:52,880
giving him thanks for what he's done for

2240
01:18:57,350 --> 01:18:55,120
them it's how do i navigate this

2241
01:18:59,110 --> 01:18:57,360
situation because you

2242
01:19:01,510 --> 01:18:59,120
you should know because you've already

2243
01:19:02,870 --> 01:19:01,520
gone through this

2244
01:19:04,229 --> 01:19:02,880
that's interesting i was going to ask

2245
01:19:04,790 --> 01:19:04,239
you to if you could talk a little bit

2246
01:19:07,990 --> 01:19:04,800
about

2247
01:19:09,990 --> 01:19:08,000
things like the rituals of incense and

2248
01:19:11,510 --> 01:19:10,000
like i'm sure we've all seen in a

2249
01:19:13,830 --> 01:19:11,520
chinese restaurant where they have a

2250
01:19:15,110 --> 01:19:13,840
little altered buddha and they put fruit

2251
01:19:16,229 --> 01:19:15,120
and things like that can you talk a

2252
01:19:18,470 --> 01:19:16,239
little bit about what

2253
01:19:19,669 --> 01:19:18,480
what why do people do that is that

2254
01:19:22,149 --> 01:19:19,679
because of impermanence

2255
01:19:23,910 --> 01:19:22,159
or what is what is the significance of

2256
01:19:28,070 --> 01:19:23,920
the offerings that people

2257
01:19:31,110 --> 01:19:28,080
do so the offering is really

2258
01:19:34,310 --> 01:19:31,120
what any offering would be it's that

2259
01:19:35,990 --> 01:19:34,320
i'm giving this to you as

2260
01:19:37,750 --> 01:19:36,000
a thanks for helping me with this

2261
01:19:39,430 --> 01:19:37,760
situation

2262
01:19:41,430 --> 01:19:39,440
um so that you're gonna so that's what

2263
01:19:42,950 --> 01:19:41,440
you're gonna see in a

2264
01:19:45,030 --> 01:19:42,960
chinese restaurant the reason they have

2265
01:19:48,470 --> 01:19:45,040
that little altar is they're giving an

2266
01:19:50,149 --> 01:19:48,480
offering to say hey i'm trying to have

2267
01:19:51,430 --> 01:19:50,159
this my chinese food restaurant be

2268
01:19:53,510 --> 01:19:51,440
successful

2269
01:19:54,470 --> 01:19:53,520
so let me give you this fruit that i

2270
01:19:58,550 --> 01:19:54,480
know that you like

2271
01:20:03,669 --> 01:20:01,910
as basically as a payment

2272
01:20:05,669 --> 01:20:03,679
to help to continue helping me that's

2273
01:20:06,790 --> 01:20:05,679
kind of how it works and why it's done

2274
01:20:10,149 --> 01:20:06,800
that way

2275
01:20:12,709 --> 01:20:10,159
um the incense is lit

2276
01:20:14,310 --> 01:20:12,719
because it's considered that the smoke

2277
01:20:17,189 --> 01:20:14,320
from the incense

2278
01:20:17,990 --> 01:20:17,199
is what's taking your message to whoever

2279
01:20:20,790 --> 01:20:18,000
that's interesting

2280
01:20:22,390 --> 01:20:20,800
yeah if you like incense and you say a

2281
01:20:23,030 --> 01:20:22,400
prayer and you put it into the incense

2282
01:20:26,310 --> 01:20:23,040
holder

2283
01:20:27,910 --> 01:20:26,320
if it stops burning halfway that's

2284
01:20:30,629 --> 01:20:27,920
considered bad luck

2285
01:20:31,750 --> 01:20:30,639
your message again you burned your good

2286
01:20:35,510 --> 01:20:31,760
incense then

2287
01:20:36,470 --> 01:20:35,520
yeah so really i guess i wanted to ask

2288
01:20:38,070 --> 01:20:36,480
you also

2289
01:20:39,590 --> 01:20:38,080
and then we will get to some questions

2290
01:20:42,709 --> 01:20:39,600
from the live chat

2291
01:20:45,189 --> 01:20:42,719
about the buddhist beliefs about

2292
01:20:46,310 --> 01:20:45,199
monogamy and marriage and things like

2293
01:20:48,229 --> 01:20:46,320
that because i think there's some

2294
01:20:51,590 --> 01:20:48,239
confusion about that

2295
01:20:54,550 --> 01:20:51,600
sometimes i mean i think

2296
01:20:55,990 --> 01:20:54,560
i think that there is um because

2297
01:20:58,790 --> 01:20:56,000
technically

2298
01:21:00,950 --> 01:20:58,800
there is no marriage yeah that's what i

2299
01:21:03,750 --> 01:21:00,960
uh

2300
01:21:04,149 --> 01:21:03,760
that was great to me right you're not

2301
01:21:07,590 --> 01:21:04,159
gonna

2302
01:21:09,590 --> 01:21:07,600
say hey i wanna get married and a monk's

2303
01:21:11,910 --> 01:21:09,600
not gonna marry you

2304
01:21:12,709 --> 01:21:11,920
that's not gonna happen um instead i

2305
01:21:15,590 --> 01:21:12,719
mean there are

2306
01:21:15,990 --> 01:21:15,600
i mean people do get married but it's

2307
01:21:18,709 --> 01:21:16,000
not

2308
01:21:20,470 --> 01:21:18,719
in the same like you would do it

2309
01:21:21,590 --> 01:21:20,480
basically i'll be honest with you when

2310
01:21:25,030 --> 01:21:21,600
you get married you're

2311
01:21:27,940 --> 01:21:25,040
basically getting married in a um

2312
01:21:30,390 --> 01:21:27,950
non-related ceremony in a legal setting

2313
01:21:33,110 --> 01:21:30,400
[Applause]

2314
01:21:34,870 --> 01:21:33,120
and ceremonies that happen within that

2315
01:21:37,030 --> 01:21:34,880
but within buddhism itself there's not

2316
01:21:38,950 --> 01:21:37,040
specifically like marriage ceremonies

2317
01:21:41,189 --> 01:21:38,960
you're having cruel marriage ceremonies

2318
01:21:43,430 --> 01:21:41,199
but not like religious

2319
01:21:46,310 --> 01:21:43,440
and how do buddhists feel about adultery

2320
01:21:48,629 --> 01:21:46,320
or people that are

2321
01:21:50,550 --> 01:21:48,639
like what do you call it uh you have

2322
01:21:55,350 --> 01:21:50,560
multiple partners or

2323
01:21:56,149 --> 01:21:55,360
whatever i think that the idea is that

2324
01:21:58,470 --> 01:21:56,159
if

2325
01:22:00,149 --> 01:21:58,480
you're committing adultery on someone

2326
01:22:03,910 --> 01:22:00,159
without their knowledge

2327
01:22:07,270 --> 01:22:03,920
that's considered bad sure

2328
01:22:09,430 --> 01:22:07,280
if you're an open polygamist or openly

2329
01:22:11,030 --> 01:22:09,440
polyamorous that's the word i was

2330
01:22:12,950 --> 01:22:11,040
looking for oh yeah

2331
01:22:14,629 --> 01:22:12,960
and everyone knows everyone in this

2332
01:22:15,990 --> 01:22:14,639
situation knows and everyone's okay with

2333
01:22:17,910 --> 01:22:16,000
it buddhism doesn't care

2334
01:22:19,270 --> 01:22:17,920
they only care if you're hurting someone

2335
01:22:21,270 --> 01:22:19,280
sure

2336
01:22:23,430 --> 01:22:21,280
so if you're not hurting anyone and

2337
01:22:26,470 --> 01:22:23,440
you're not hurting yourself

2338
01:22:29,510 --> 01:22:28,390
that gay marriage is okay they don't

2339
01:22:31,270 --> 01:22:29,520
care

2340
01:22:32,950 --> 01:22:31,280
yeah and you can definitely be gay and

2341
01:22:33,750 --> 01:22:32,960
be a buddhist and nobody will judge you

2342
01:22:35,990 --> 01:22:33,760
or tell you're not

2343
01:22:38,310 --> 01:22:36,000
you can't come to their temple right

2344
01:22:43,270 --> 01:22:38,320
correct and also buddhism

2345
01:22:45,430 --> 01:22:43,280
makes it so that if disclosure happened

2346
01:22:47,189 --> 01:22:45,440
it wouldn't affect buddhism if aliens

2347
01:22:49,189 --> 01:22:47,199
turned out to be real

2348
01:22:50,470 --> 01:22:49,199
this is interesting yeah it's not a

2349
01:22:52,070 --> 01:22:50,480
psychologist

2350
01:22:55,110 --> 01:22:52,080
let's talk a little bit about that so

2351
01:22:58,790 --> 01:22:55,120
why if we if if we found out tomorrow

2352
01:23:00,149 --> 01:22:58,800
that angels or that aliens are real

2353
01:23:01,990 --> 01:23:00,159
uh a lot of people think that there

2354
01:23:03,590 --> 01:23:02,000
would be religious turmoil and there

2355
01:23:05,750 --> 01:23:03,600
probably certainly would i think the

2356
01:23:07,669 --> 01:23:05,760
vatican has sort of gotten ahead of it

2357
01:23:09,270 --> 01:23:07,679
by basically putting out statements

2358
01:23:09,910 --> 01:23:09,280
saying that they would just be like our

2359
01:23:13,030 --> 01:23:09,920
brothers

2360
01:23:14,070 --> 01:23:13,040
just another you know form of god

2361
01:23:15,430 --> 01:23:14,080
created them too

2362
01:23:17,350 --> 01:23:15,440
it wouldn't really affect us but in

2363
01:23:20,310 --> 01:23:17,360
buddhism it wouldn't affect it

2364
01:23:21,430 --> 01:23:20,320
why is that well it's because one we

2365
01:23:24,070 --> 01:23:21,440
don't you don't have

2366
01:23:25,590 --> 01:23:24,080
that whole creator god right so you

2367
01:23:27,590 --> 01:23:25,600
don't have that idea of

2368
01:23:30,550 --> 01:23:27,600
humanity is special being created with

2369
01:23:32,629 --> 01:23:30,560
intelligent design by god

2370
01:23:33,990 --> 01:23:32,639
instead you have the universe was

2371
01:23:37,590 --> 01:23:34,000
created at some

2372
01:23:40,870 --> 01:23:37,600
point through energy

2373
01:23:42,470 --> 01:23:40,880
and you could and on this same level

2374
01:23:43,590 --> 01:23:42,480
that we're on you could be born as a

2375
01:23:45,669 --> 01:23:43,600
human on earth

2376
01:23:47,830 --> 01:23:45,679
or you could also be born in the same

2377
01:23:49,510 --> 01:23:47,840
vibration of the equivalent of a human

2378
01:23:51,669 --> 01:23:49,520
but just somewhere physically different

2379
01:23:54,550 --> 01:23:51,679
which could make you an alien

2380
01:23:55,910 --> 01:23:54,560
um there's nothing preventing that it's

2381
01:23:57,590 --> 01:23:55,920
really just another option for you to

2382
01:23:58,629 --> 01:23:57,600
reincarnate into and they're not better

2383
01:24:00,149 --> 01:23:58,639
or worse than us

2384
01:24:02,229 --> 01:24:00,159
technically because if you can interact

2385
01:24:03,350 --> 01:24:02,239
with them then they're on the same realm

2386
01:24:06,470 --> 01:24:03,360
as you

2387
01:24:08,070 --> 01:24:06,480
so really it doesn't matter yeah

2388
01:24:12,550 --> 01:24:08,080
i always thought that was a little i was

2389
01:24:17,350 --> 01:24:15,830
because i i know i know a fundamentalist

2390
01:24:19,189 --> 01:24:17,360
christian who absolutely said

2391
01:24:21,510 --> 01:24:19,199
there's no such thing as aliens because

2392
01:24:23,669 --> 01:24:21,520
god created us and no other people

2393
01:24:24,709 --> 01:24:23,679
and i like that's how do you know that

2394
01:24:26,470 --> 01:24:24,719
like how can you be so

2395
01:24:28,870 --> 01:24:26,480
sure that what's in the blood you know

2396
01:24:31,350 --> 01:24:28,880
it's in the bible it's in the bible

2397
01:24:32,950 --> 01:24:31,360
yeah so that's interesting so aliens are

2398
01:24:35,030 --> 01:24:32,960
compatible with

2399
01:24:36,149 --> 01:24:35,040
with buddhism then and we can be

2400
01:24:38,790 --> 01:24:36,159
reincarnated in an

2401
01:24:41,030 --> 01:24:38,800
alien world in an alien as a different

2402
01:24:45,430 --> 01:24:41,040
alien sort of species

2403
01:24:49,590 --> 01:24:48,070
that's interesting i always found

2404
01:24:50,470 --> 01:24:49,600
something some of the stuff of the dalai

2405
01:24:52,950 --> 01:24:50,480
lama

2406
01:24:54,550 --> 01:24:52,960
a little crazy though like i'm not gonna

2407
01:24:55,270 --> 01:24:54,560
say that the dalai lama is a perfect

2408
01:24:57,030 --> 01:24:55,280
person

2409
01:24:58,310 --> 01:24:57,040
no no but i think he's a good man i

2410
01:25:01,110 --> 01:24:58,320
think he's a good man

2411
01:25:02,149 --> 01:25:01,120
trying to help but it's just it's not

2412
01:25:04,950 --> 01:25:02,159
even him it's the

2413
01:25:05,510 --> 01:25:04,960
traditions that they have like like they

2414
01:25:07,910 --> 01:25:05,520
know

2415
01:25:08,709 --> 01:25:07,920
where he reincarnated and they found him

2416
01:25:11,750 --> 01:25:08,719
as a child

2417
01:25:11,990 --> 01:25:11,760
you know it's just yeah so yeah for

2418
01:25:14,550 --> 01:25:12,000
people

2419
01:25:16,390 --> 01:25:14,560
that don't know the dalai lama is a role

2420
01:25:17,750 --> 01:25:16,400
that gets ring like i said buddha has

2421
01:25:18,709 --> 01:25:17,760
existed and is one person that's

2422
01:25:21,510 --> 01:25:18,719
reincarnated

2423
01:25:22,310 --> 01:25:21,520
seven times maybe eight the dalai lama

2424
01:25:24,229 --> 01:25:22,320
is the same

2425
01:25:26,470 --> 01:25:24,239
sort of role it's a spiritual leader but

2426
01:25:29,510 --> 01:25:26,480
it's it's supposedly the same

2427
01:25:31,669 --> 01:25:29,520
soul being born over and over again into

2428
01:25:33,750 --> 01:25:31,679
different bodies

2429
01:25:34,790 --> 01:25:33,760
that don't know when the dalai lama dies

2430
01:25:36,790 --> 01:25:34,800
the monks and

2431
01:25:39,350 --> 01:25:36,800
his and his closest followers will go

2432
01:25:43,030 --> 01:25:39,360
running around looking for

2433
01:25:45,189 --> 01:25:43,040
his reincarnate body correct

2434
01:25:48,070 --> 01:25:45,199
they have some sort of text right did

2435
01:25:50,229 --> 01:25:48,080
you did you test to determine

2436
01:25:51,830 --> 01:25:50,239
determine if it's him and everything

2437
01:25:52,870 --> 01:25:51,840
here's the interesting thing though they

2438
01:25:55,510 --> 01:25:52,880
have said and

2439
01:25:56,550 --> 01:25:55,520
the dalai lama has said this that the

2440
01:25:59,750 --> 01:25:56,560
next dalai lama

2441
01:26:01,590 --> 01:25:59,760
has already been born so actually it's a

2442
01:26:03,270 --> 01:26:01,600
different individual like this is his

2443
01:26:05,910 --> 01:26:03,280
last life this is basically

2444
01:26:07,990 --> 01:26:05,920
this i heard that this is his

2445
01:26:10,709 --> 01:26:08,000
information yeah so he better get busy

2446
01:26:11,990 --> 01:26:10,719
on the path to enlightenment then right

2447
01:26:14,310 --> 01:26:12,000
and his

2448
01:26:16,310 --> 01:26:14,320
replacement of the new whatever dalai

2449
01:26:19,350 --> 01:26:16,320
lama equivalent is has already been born

2450
01:26:22,310 --> 01:26:19,360
they've already identified him

2451
01:26:23,350 --> 01:26:22,320
i don't know but yes yeah that's

2452
01:26:25,189 --> 01:26:23,360
interesting it's a little

2453
01:26:26,390 --> 01:26:25,199
it's a little strange and alien to a

2454
01:26:29,830 --> 01:26:26,400
western person

2455
01:26:33,030 --> 01:26:29,840
but it's pretty widely accepted in in in

2456
01:26:33,350 --> 01:26:33,040
you know in this sort of eastern culture

2457
01:26:35,189 --> 01:26:33,360
that

2458
01:26:36,390 --> 01:26:35,199
yeah they just go and they find his new

2459
01:26:38,709 --> 01:26:36,400
incarnate

2460
01:26:40,790 --> 01:26:38,719
and he's the new leader and then they

2461
01:26:44,390 --> 01:26:40,800
take him in as a child and teach him and

2462
01:26:47,430 --> 01:26:44,400
you know yeah it's pretty interesting

2463
01:26:48,830 --> 01:26:47,440
it is and there's actually been funnily

2464
01:26:51,910 --> 01:26:48,840
enough a few

2465
01:26:54,070 --> 01:26:51,920
um depictions of this

2466
01:26:55,990 --> 01:26:54,080
but specifically with the dalai lama

2467
01:26:58,310 --> 01:26:56,000
incarnation and like that whole idea

2468
01:26:59,669 --> 01:26:58,320
like these ideas of being incarnated in

2469
01:27:01,510 --> 01:26:59,679
the testing

2470
01:27:02,790 --> 01:27:01,520
there's funnily enough an episode of

2471
01:27:05,910 --> 01:27:02,800
king of the hill

2472
01:27:07,350 --> 01:27:05,920
where they just i saw that yeah i know

2473
01:27:08,070 --> 01:27:07,360
exactly what you're talking about yeah

2474
01:27:10,470 --> 01:27:08,080
and then also

2475
01:27:12,550 --> 01:27:10,480
a movie um called little buddha with

2476
01:27:14,470 --> 01:27:12,560
piano reeves that talks about it where

2477
01:27:15,669 --> 01:27:14,480
it's the idea that these there's three

2478
01:27:17,110 --> 01:27:15,679
children that are possibly the

2479
01:27:19,830 --> 01:27:17,120
incarnation of buddha which

2480
01:27:20,390 --> 01:27:19,840
isn't something that would happen but

2481
01:27:21,830 --> 01:27:20,400
that's the

2482
01:27:23,669 --> 01:27:21,840
but basically they're trying to figure

2483
01:27:25,189 --> 01:27:23,679
out which one of these three is the one

2484
01:27:26,709 --> 01:27:25,199
and it turns out all three of them long

2485
01:27:28,550 --> 01:27:26,719
story but

2486
01:27:31,430 --> 01:27:28,560
the there are representations of this

2487
01:27:33,430 --> 01:27:31,440
whole idea of going to find the child

2488
01:27:34,950 --> 01:27:33,440
testing them to make sure and then

2489
01:27:37,030 --> 01:27:34,960
confirming and then training them or

2490
01:27:39,350 --> 01:27:37,040
whatever however needs to be done

2491
01:27:40,310 --> 01:27:39,360
all right we're going to uh we're going

2492
01:27:41,669 --> 01:27:40,320
to get to

2493
01:27:43,669 --> 01:27:41,679
some questions from the audience but i

2494
01:27:45,270 --> 01:27:43,679
have one last question for you or really

2495
01:27:45,990 --> 01:27:45,280
it's just i want you to talk about

2496
01:27:48,550 --> 01:27:46,000
something that i

2497
01:27:49,350 --> 01:27:48,560
see happen all the time and it bothers

2498
01:27:51,030 --> 01:27:49,360
me

2499
01:27:53,110 --> 01:27:51,040
uh there's a lot of people in the new

2500
01:27:55,910 --> 01:27:53,120
age sort of consciousness

2501
01:27:57,750 --> 01:27:55,920
community that are very quick to sell

2502
01:28:00,709 --> 01:27:57,760
you meditation courses

2503
01:28:02,310 --> 01:28:00,719
yes and uh some of those courses i saw

2504
01:28:05,350 --> 01:28:02,320
one that was like

2505
01:28:08,149 --> 01:28:05,360
over 300 and it's you know

2506
01:28:09,510 --> 01:28:08,159
uh so one of the things that i always

2507
01:28:11,350 --> 01:28:09,520
tell people is that there's these

2508
01:28:12,790 --> 01:28:11,360
buddhist societies you can look them up

2509
01:28:13,990 --> 01:28:12,800
on the internet and if you just send

2510
01:28:16,870 --> 01:28:14,000
them postage they'll

2511
01:28:19,110 --> 01:28:16,880
send you a hundred books on buddhism and

2512
01:28:21,669 --> 01:28:19,120
meditation how to meditate

2513
01:28:23,590 --> 01:28:21,679
if you visit any buddhist uh

2514
01:28:26,070 --> 01:28:23,600
organization they'll give you books or

2515
01:28:28,470 --> 01:28:26,080
you give them a small gift for the book

2516
01:28:29,590 --> 01:28:28,480
so i just wanted you to talk about that

2517
01:28:31,590 --> 01:28:29,600
where can people

2518
01:28:33,590 --> 01:28:31,600
learn more about buddhism about

2519
01:28:34,709 --> 01:28:33,600
meditation in a way that it's not going

2520
01:28:37,910 --> 01:28:34,719
to be a 300

2521
01:28:39,189 --> 01:28:37,920
course you know yeah so what you're

2522
01:28:41,270 --> 01:28:39,199
going to want to do with

2523
01:28:42,550 --> 01:28:41,280
regards to that is you want to look for

2524
01:28:48,550 --> 01:28:42,560
local

2525
01:28:49,910 --> 01:28:48,560
and or temples even if you can find them

2526
01:28:51,430 --> 01:28:49,920
but you're it's going to be easier to

2527
01:28:52,390 --> 01:28:51,440
find a center like that shambhala center

2528
01:28:54,229 --> 01:28:52,400
that you're talking about in

2529
01:28:55,750 --> 01:28:54,239
philadelphia

2530
01:28:57,669 --> 01:28:55,760
places like that are going to be the

2531
01:28:59,590 --> 01:28:57,679
best places to look you don't want to

2532
01:29:01,030 --> 01:28:59,600
look for a guru

2533
01:29:02,790 --> 01:29:01,040
you don't want to look for someone that

2534
01:29:03,590 --> 01:29:02,800
says i'm going to be able to teach this

2535
01:29:06,310 --> 01:29:03,600
to you

2536
01:29:07,750 --> 01:29:06,320
what you want really is to get the

2537
01:29:10,390 --> 01:29:07,760
information from someone

2538
01:29:11,350 --> 01:29:10,400
who practices it spiritually for

2539
01:29:13,270 --> 01:29:11,360
personal reasons

2540
01:29:16,070 --> 01:29:13,280
not for financial reasons and isn't

2541
01:29:18,390 --> 01:29:16,080
trying to make a big deal out of it

2542
01:29:19,270 --> 01:29:18,400
um these because really there's these

2543
01:29:21,189 --> 01:29:19,280
traditions and

2544
01:29:22,470 --> 01:29:21,199
i'm gonna be honest with everyone that

2545
01:29:25,030 --> 01:29:22,480
meditation seems

2546
01:29:26,709 --> 01:29:25,040
intimidating but it's actually once you

2547
01:29:28,790 --> 01:29:26,719
realize what you're really doing

2548
01:29:30,149 --> 01:29:28,800
it's not that hard yeah i was scared as

2549
01:29:31,910 --> 01:29:30,159
hell when i first started doing it but i

2550
01:29:33,990 --> 01:29:31,920
think a lot of that was

2551
01:29:35,910 --> 01:29:34,000
was the priests echoing in my head that

2552
01:29:37,910 --> 01:29:35,920
that could be you know

2553
01:29:39,910 --> 01:29:37,920
that could lead to satan you start

2554
01:29:41,990 --> 01:29:39,920
meditating you know

2555
01:29:43,590 --> 01:29:42,000
that's how gets in your brain and you

2556
01:29:46,070 --> 01:29:43,600
know

2557
01:29:48,870 --> 01:29:46,080
yeah the biggest one for me is honestly

2558
01:29:50,790 --> 01:29:48,880
the ones that focus on impermanence

2559
01:29:53,189 --> 01:29:50,800
that has been the most helpful to me

2560
01:29:53,750 --> 01:29:53,199
because you just focus on for example

2561
01:29:57,189 --> 01:29:53,760
like

2562
01:29:57,910 --> 01:29:57,199
leaves falling from a tree and imagine

2563
01:30:00,390 --> 01:29:57,920
that leaf

2564
01:30:01,830 --> 01:30:00,400
degrading and turning into soil and the

2565
01:30:03,990 --> 01:30:01,840
microbes in the soil

2566
01:30:05,110 --> 01:30:04,000
and and then new plants growing from

2567
01:30:06,870 --> 01:30:05,120
that soil and

2568
01:30:08,229 --> 01:30:06,880
this whole idea of impermanence there's

2569
01:30:09,189 --> 01:30:08,239
all these different meditations but for

2570
01:30:10,950 --> 01:30:09,199
me that's

2571
01:30:13,270 --> 01:30:10,960
been one of the most helpful and

2572
01:30:15,830 --> 01:30:13,280
definitely this awareness

2573
01:30:17,350 --> 01:30:15,840
a lot of times people have issues with

2574
01:30:19,110 --> 01:30:17,360
controlling their emotions

2575
01:30:20,709 --> 01:30:19,120
and that's how this has helped me a

2576
01:30:23,830 --> 01:30:20,719
great deal because

2577
01:30:26,629 --> 01:30:23,840
instead of going from zero to 100 and

2578
01:30:28,070 --> 01:30:26,639
yelling now i have this sort of it gives

2579
01:30:29,510 --> 01:30:28,080
don't you think so that buddhism gives

2580
01:30:31,270 --> 01:30:29,520
you this sort of awareness like i'm

2581
01:30:31,990 --> 01:30:31,280
growing more anxious i'm growing more

2582
01:30:33,590 --> 01:30:32,000
tense

2583
01:30:35,270 --> 01:30:33,600
and then you learn to push it back

2584
01:30:38,070 --> 01:30:35,280
before it turns into

2585
01:30:40,470 --> 01:30:38,080
you just gain more control and mastery

2586
01:30:42,470 --> 01:30:40,480
of your own consciousness i think

2587
01:30:43,669 --> 01:30:42,480
right yeah no i agree with that and i

2588
01:30:45,350 --> 01:30:43,679
think that it's because it's through

2589
01:30:47,030 --> 01:30:45,360
meditation that you're able to do that

2590
01:30:48,790 --> 01:30:47,040
one i don't want people to shy away from

2591
01:30:50,229 --> 01:30:48,800
guided meditation because they're not

2592
01:30:53,270 --> 01:30:50,239
going to hurt you

2593
01:30:56,470 --> 01:30:53,280
if you can't sit down with music or

2594
01:30:57,750 --> 01:30:56,480
silence and just have nothing if that's

2595
01:30:59,510 --> 01:30:57,760
hard for you it's okay

2596
01:31:01,350 --> 01:30:59,520
to use music or to use a guided

2597
01:31:02,149 --> 01:31:01,360
meditation to help you get used to the

2598
01:31:05,030 --> 01:31:02,159
idea

2599
01:31:06,790 --> 01:31:05,040
to get used to getting into that space

2600
01:31:08,149 --> 01:31:06,800
and really clearing your head

2601
01:31:09,750 --> 01:31:08,159
the other thing is that when you

2602
01:31:10,950 --> 01:31:09,760
meditate and but you're doing it by

2603
01:31:13,430 --> 01:31:10,960
yourself the first time

2604
01:31:14,629 --> 01:31:13,440
the goal isn't to think people are like

2605
01:31:15,750 --> 01:31:14,639
i'm gonna think of nothing

2606
01:31:17,669 --> 01:31:15,760
and then they sit there and all they're

2607
01:31:18,870 --> 01:31:17,679
like nothing nothing no

2608
01:31:20,709 --> 01:31:18,880
you're gonna have thoughts come and go

2609
01:31:21,430 --> 01:31:20,719
but i learned that you just push them

2610
01:31:22,709 --> 01:31:21,440
back

2611
01:31:24,390 --> 01:31:22,719
yes and that's when you have an

2612
01:31:25,510 --> 01:31:24,400
awareness like now i'm starting to worry

2613
01:31:28,470 --> 01:31:25,520
about

2614
01:31:28,870 --> 01:31:28,480
my marriage right now and letting it get

2615
01:31:31,669 --> 01:31:28,880
back

2616
01:31:33,030 --> 01:31:31,679
yeah yeah and that's really what you're

2617
01:31:37,030 --> 01:31:33,040
trying to do it's not

2618
01:31:39,669 --> 01:31:37,040
it's totally still mine it's the ability

2619
01:31:41,830 --> 01:31:39,679
to let thoughts go is really what we're

2620
01:31:43,830 --> 01:31:41,840
looking at with meditation

2621
01:31:45,270 --> 01:31:43,840
so that that's really what you're trying

2622
01:31:46,870 --> 01:31:45,280
to do and that's how you get that

2623
01:31:48,790 --> 01:31:46,880
awareness if you're talking about

2624
01:31:51,270 --> 01:31:48,800
kind of being a better connection with

2625
01:31:55,030 --> 01:31:53,189
because what if once you reach kind of

2626
01:31:57,189 --> 01:31:55,040
that point of calmness and really kind

2627
01:31:58,790 --> 01:31:57,199
of being able to let those thoughts go

2628
01:32:00,629 --> 01:31:58,800
then you realize that that's kind of

2629
01:32:02,229 --> 01:32:00,639
your baseline

2630
01:32:04,470 --> 01:32:02,239
um and then when you can see yourself

2631
01:32:05,750 --> 01:32:04,480
kind of going into that anxiety or those

2632
01:32:07,030 --> 01:32:05,760
problems that's how you're able to

2633
01:32:08,709 --> 01:32:07,040
notice because you have to have that

2634
01:32:10,070 --> 01:32:08,719
zero baseline to know when you're

2635
01:32:11,990 --> 01:32:10,080
getting out of hand yeah it gives you

2636
01:32:15,030 --> 01:32:12,000
greater awareness i remember the day

2637
01:32:16,310 --> 01:32:15,040
that i after really going to the center

2638
01:32:17,910 --> 01:32:16,320
for a long time and taking a bunch of

2639
01:32:18,870 --> 01:32:17,920
meditation courses and getting really

2640
01:32:20,709 --> 01:32:18,880
into it

2641
01:32:22,870 --> 01:32:20,719
i remember this specific day where i

2642
01:32:25,510 --> 01:32:22,880
went this buddhism is

2643
01:32:27,189 --> 01:32:25,520
it's this thing is so helpful to my life

2644
01:32:28,709 --> 01:32:27,199
because i was in a supermarket and there

2645
01:32:30,870 --> 01:32:28,719
was an old lady

2646
01:32:32,550 --> 01:32:30,880
with a thousand coupons in front of and

2647
01:32:34,629 --> 01:32:32,560
i was buying like three things

2648
01:32:36,390 --> 01:32:34,639
she's got like a thousand coupons she's

2649
01:32:39,830 --> 01:32:36,400
paying with like

2650
01:32:42,149 --> 01:32:39,840
you know exact change just

2651
01:32:43,669 --> 01:32:42,159
but i remember feeling like i'm getting

2652
01:32:44,709 --> 01:32:43,679
more anxious this lady's starting to

2653
01:32:47,350 --> 01:32:44,719
bother me

2654
01:32:48,709 --> 01:32:47,360
and then i realized that i was getting

2655
01:32:50,790 --> 01:32:48,719
impatient and

2656
01:32:52,870 --> 01:32:50,800
and anxious and i was able to push it

2657
01:32:54,790 --> 01:32:52,880
back and smile at her

2658
01:32:56,470 --> 01:32:54,800
and realize that someday i'm going to be

2659
01:32:59,430 --> 01:32:56,480
that old lady that needs

2660
01:33:01,910 --> 01:32:59,440
a hundred coupons right you know and i

2661
01:33:03,669 --> 01:33:01,920
saw myself in her later and said

2662
01:33:06,310 --> 01:33:03,679
it's all good you know i even offered to

2663
01:33:08,310 --> 01:33:06,320
take her bags help her with the work

2664
01:33:09,910 --> 01:33:08,320
it's just that was the day that i

2665
01:33:10,550 --> 01:33:09,920
realized that i needed more of this in

2666
01:33:13,189 --> 01:33:10,560
my life

2667
01:33:14,870 --> 01:33:13,199
because previously i would have been

2668
01:33:17,189 --> 01:33:14,880
jesus christ you know god

2669
01:33:18,709 --> 01:33:17,199
you know come on lady you know or

2670
01:33:19,910 --> 01:33:18,719
whatever i would have been probably

2671
01:33:21,590 --> 01:33:19,920
would have been rude to her

2672
01:33:22,709 --> 01:33:21,600
because she really held the line up for

2673
01:33:24,390 --> 01:33:22,719
like 10 minutes and there's people

2674
01:33:26,790 --> 01:33:24,400
behind me that were getting pissed off

2675
01:33:28,709 --> 01:33:26,800
you know but it gives us a little more

2676
01:33:31,030 --> 01:33:28,719
awareness of our emotions before they

2677
01:33:33,510 --> 01:33:31,040
just go from zero to 100

2678
01:33:34,550 --> 01:33:33,520
yes exactly well if we have comments or

2679
01:33:37,910 --> 01:33:34,560
questions

2680
01:33:39,590 --> 01:33:37,920
for uh for kelly uh put him in

2681
01:33:41,110 --> 01:33:39,600
all caps i don't want to keep you for

2682
01:33:42,629 --> 01:33:41,120
too long it's the day before

2683
01:33:45,110 --> 01:33:42,639
thanksgiving i hope you have some good

2684
01:33:49,430 --> 01:33:45,120
plans right

2685
01:33:49,990 --> 01:33:49,440
i mean i covered kind of ruined yeah

2686
01:33:52,390 --> 01:33:50,000
well we're

2687
01:33:53,990 --> 01:33:52,400
only doing i'm here's what i'm most

2688
01:33:56,550 --> 01:33:54,000
angry about

2689
01:33:57,830 --> 01:33:56,560
my mother-in-law is an amazing cook the

2690
01:34:00,470 --> 01:33:57,840
best cook i know

2691
01:34:01,030 --> 01:34:00,480
and she has her gravy that she cooks all

2692
01:34:03,270 --> 01:34:01,040
day

2693
01:34:05,590 --> 01:34:03,280
turkey gravy everybody rants better

2694
01:34:06,950 --> 01:34:05,600
gravy i didn't get her gravy last year

2695
01:34:08,709 --> 01:34:06,960
because something was going on and we

2696
01:34:11,189 --> 01:34:08,719
just had thanksgiving and now

2697
01:34:12,950 --> 01:34:11,199
they had coconut cases in her house that

2698
01:34:13,430 --> 01:34:12,960
they've just recovered from so we can't

2699
01:34:18,310 --> 01:34:13,440
go

2700
01:34:21,030 --> 01:34:18,320
my mother-in-law

2701
01:34:21,350 --> 01:34:21,040
yeah these are perfect world problems

2702
01:34:22,709 --> 01:34:21,360
though

2703
01:34:24,550 --> 01:34:22,719
this is the worst thing i have to deal

2704
01:34:26,470 --> 01:34:24,560
with it's okay we're gonna have a great

2705
01:34:29,590 --> 01:34:26,480
deal here with just the four of us

2706
01:34:30,629 --> 01:34:29,600
and uh yeah so questions or comments put

2707
01:34:35,910 --> 01:34:30,639
them in all

2708
01:34:37,030 --> 01:34:35,920
take some comments jeanette go to your

2709
01:34:38,790 --> 01:34:37,040
happy place

2710
01:34:40,310 --> 01:34:38,800
you saw in your meditation or pinch your

2711
01:34:41,350 --> 01:34:40,320
hand while meditating then you just

2712
01:34:44,470 --> 01:34:41,360
pinch it

2713
01:34:47,990 --> 01:34:44,480
and your body remembers maybe yeah i've

2714
01:34:52,470 --> 01:34:50,229
yeah family is great we're all good and

2715
01:34:53,830 --> 01:34:52,480
my extended family the few who got

2716
01:34:55,350 --> 01:34:53,840
covered all in my mother-in-law's

2717
01:34:55,990 --> 01:34:55,360
household i think there was three of

2718
01:35:00,709 --> 01:34:56,000
them

2719
01:35:03,270 --> 01:35:00,719
recovered i think they just had

2720
01:35:05,590 --> 01:35:03,280
pretty mild symptoms so oh that's good

2721
01:35:06,790 --> 01:35:05,600
no complaints so any questions put them

2722
01:35:08,390 --> 01:35:06,800
in all caps

2723
01:35:09,669 --> 01:35:08,400
otherwise i'll start asking her more

2724
01:35:11,109 --> 01:35:09,679
questions because i could keep her here

2725
01:35:12,470 --> 01:35:11,119
for five more hours but i don't want to

2726
01:35:15,189 --> 01:35:12,480
do that to her

2727
01:35:15,590 --> 01:35:15,199
because yeah do you you know do you know

2728
01:35:18,709 --> 01:35:15,600
how

2729
01:35:20,149 --> 01:35:18,719
uh i feel a little uh you know like you

2730
01:35:23,030 --> 01:35:20,159
and i are friendly

2731
01:35:24,870 --> 01:35:23,040
and uh closer in age so like when i go

2732
01:35:26,390 --> 01:35:24,880
to these places i feel a little

2733
01:35:28,149 --> 01:35:26,400
like some of these questions that i

2734
01:35:29,910 --> 01:35:28,159
asked you i would want to ask the monks

2735
01:35:31,830 --> 01:35:29,920
but i feel a little funny

2736
01:35:33,910 --> 01:35:31,840
you know feel a little intimidated by

2737
01:35:35,750 --> 01:35:33,920
those guys i'm always fascinated by

2738
01:35:37,030 --> 01:35:35,760
some of these monks though i visited one

2739
01:35:40,070 --> 01:35:37,040
place

2740
01:35:41,590 --> 01:35:40,080
where monks lived and they literally had

2741
01:35:43,830 --> 01:35:41,600
the begging bowl on their

2742
01:35:45,270 --> 01:35:43,840
porch and i got to learn all about that

2743
01:35:46,870 --> 01:35:45,280
and these guys

2744
01:35:48,470 --> 01:35:46,880
didn't eat unless people from the

2745
01:35:50,070 --> 01:35:48,480
community brought them food and

2746
01:35:53,189 --> 01:35:50,080
that's another interesting concept of

2747
01:35:57,030 --> 01:35:55,270
oh here we go kelly being the great

2748
01:35:59,030 --> 01:35:57,040
diversity in religions and beliefs

2749
01:36:00,470 --> 01:35:59,040
is there a general path and all people

2750
01:36:02,390 --> 01:36:00,480
take when choosing their religion of

2751
01:36:04,390 --> 01:36:02,400
choice like a reason why they choose

2752
01:36:07,830 --> 01:36:04,400
such

2753
01:36:09,189 --> 01:36:07,840
wait being the great diversity

2754
01:36:10,790 --> 01:36:09,199
or is he saying being there is great

2755
01:36:12,310 --> 01:36:10,800
diversity there is great diversity and

2756
01:36:12,870 --> 01:36:12,320
religions and belief is there a general

2757
01:36:14,629 --> 01:36:12,880
path in

2758
01:36:16,390 --> 01:36:14,639
all that people take when choosing their

2759
01:36:18,470 --> 01:36:16,400
religion of choice like a reason why

2760
01:36:19,990 --> 01:36:18,480
they choose it

2761
01:36:22,149 --> 01:36:20,000
i mean i think the people are going to

2762
01:36:25,270 --> 01:36:22,159
choose what

2763
01:36:25,830 --> 01:36:25,280
resonates with them the most if they if

2764
01:36:28,070 --> 01:36:25,840
they weren't

2765
01:36:30,149 --> 01:36:28,080
raised in a specific religion and were

2766
01:36:33,030 --> 01:36:30,159
conditioned to believe that based on

2767
01:36:34,550 --> 01:36:33,040
their family if it's someone you know

2768
01:36:35,750 --> 01:36:34,560
leaving a religion going to another one

2769
01:36:37,430 --> 01:36:35,760
trying to find one something kind of

2770
01:36:39,750 --> 01:36:37,440
similar to what you did

2771
01:36:40,950 --> 01:36:39,760
steven when you were kind of exploring

2772
01:36:42,550 --> 01:36:40,960
other options

2773
01:36:44,310 --> 01:36:42,560
yeah and i checked out everything i

2774
01:36:46,149 --> 01:36:44,320
checked out scientology

2775
01:36:47,990 --> 01:36:46,159
and that boy i thought those guys were

2776
01:36:48,470 --> 01:36:48,000
brainwashed weirdos and i ran out of

2777
01:36:51,510 --> 01:36:48,480
there

2778
01:36:55,030 --> 01:36:51,520
after getting one like they gave you the

2779
01:36:57,030 --> 01:36:55,040
that free first audit yeah

2780
01:37:00,390 --> 01:36:57,040
and somebody asked if you have been to

2781
01:37:05,109 --> 01:37:00,400
the temple by east ceti

2782
01:37:09,750 --> 01:37:05,119
oh it's genocide's wife renee

2783
01:37:14,629 --> 01:37:13,109
i have not been to that temple so when i

2784
01:37:17,669 --> 01:37:14,639
went to east setting

2785
01:37:18,870 --> 01:37:17,679
i was only there for two days everyone

2786
01:37:20,950 --> 01:37:18,880
else had been there for like four or

2787
01:37:22,390 --> 01:37:20,960
five days i was only there for two days

2788
01:37:24,070 --> 01:37:22,400
i didn't get a chance to go to that

2789
01:37:26,629 --> 01:37:24,080
temple in stupa

2790
01:37:27,990 --> 01:37:26,639
that's up near there but i have seen

2791
01:37:29,669 --> 01:37:28,000
pictures of it and i've heard great

2792
01:37:30,390 --> 01:37:29,679
stories about it a lot of people loved

2793
01:37:32,550 --> 01:37:30,400
it

2794
01:37:34,790 --> 01:37:32,560
i have to remember if i ever get there

2795
01:37:35,830 --> 01:37:34,800
and uh pragmatic says can we talk more

2796
01:37:38,390 --> 01:37:35,840
about

2797
01:37:40,149 --> 01:37:38,400
hirajik through the bardos i.e the

2798
01:37:43,430 --> 01:37:40,159
tibetan book of the dead

2799
01:37:45,350 --> 01:37:43,440
rituals so i'll be honest with you

2800
01:37:46,950 --> 01:37:45,360
i have the tibetan book of the dead um

2801
01:37:47,590 --> 01:37:46,960
but tibetan buddhism is something i

2802
01:37:50,629 --> 01:37:47,600
haven't

2803
01:37:51,990 --> 01:37:50,639
gone as deeply into it's one of those

2804
01:37:53,590 --> 01:37:52,000
things that i'm planning on going into

2805
01:37:55,430 --> 01:37:53,600
but i haven't

2806
01:37:56,870 --> 01:37:55,440
gotten there yet because the thing is

2807
01:37:58,390 --> 01:37:56,880
that there are a lot of differences with

2808
01:37:59,750 --> 01:37:58,400
tibetan buddhism yes it falls under

2809
01:38:03,270 --> 01:37:59,760
mahayana

2810
01:38:05,669 --> 01:38:03,280
but it's much more i would say mystical

2811
01:38:07,430 --> 01:38:05,679
it's much more and it does focus more on

2812
01:38:11,510 --> 01:38:07,440
the sutras

2813
01:38:15,189 --> 01:38:13,270
versus the other things that other the

2814
01:38:18,709 --> 01:38:15,199
the other uh versions of

2815
01:38:19,750 --> 01:38:18,719
the other texts okay a little harder so

2816
01:38:21,350 --> 01:38:19,760
i haven't gotten there yet so i can't

2817
01:38:22,310 --> 01:38:21,360
really answer that's the best way to put

2818
01:38:23,510 --> 01:38:22,320
it

2819
01:38:25,350 --> 01:38:23,520
and i just want to mention to people

2820
01:38:27,510 --> 01:38:25,360
that uh six design put

2821
01:38:29,910 --> 01:38:27,520
in the chat explaining esoterica you're

2822
01:38:32,870 --> 01:38:29,920
back now right you're back to street

2823
01:38:36,070 --> 01:38:32,880
officially back to streaming i'd taken

2824
01:38:37,990 --> 01:38:36,080
about five ish months off which seems

2825
01:38:39,669 --> 01:38:38,000
like a lot now that i think about it

2826
01:38:41,109 --> 01:38:39,679
yeah i think you're going longer than

2827
01:38:43,270 --> 01:38:41,119
that to me right

2828
01:38:44,629 --> 01:38:43,280
but yeah i've been gone honestly your

2829
01:38:46,470 --> 01:38:44,639
channel is one of those channels that i

2830
01:38:48,229 --> 01:38:46,480
catch up when i'm driving like if i had

2831
01:38:49,750 --> 01:38:48,239
to go to the cabin and you had a stream

2832
01:38:51,430 --> 01:38:49,760
that i missed i would put it on

2833
01:38:53,270 --> 01:38:51,440
when i was driving you know you and a

2834
01:38:55,350 --> 01:38:53,280
few other people that's how i catch up

2835
01:38:57,350 --> 01:38:55,360
and then you stop and stream and screwed

2836
01:38:58,950 --> 01:38:57,360
up my drive for so long because then i

2837
01:39:00,070 --> 01:38:58,960
was like well i guess i'm listening to

2838
01:39:01,910 --> 01:39:00,080
joe rogan again

2839
01:39:03,270 --> 01:39:01,920
or something i like listening to the

2840
01:39:04,950 --> 01:39:03,280
people that i know a little better and

2841
01:39:06,390 --> 01:39:04,960
see what they're doing on their shows so

2842
01:39:08,470 --> 01:39:06,400
the way that you're back

2843
01:39:10,229 --> 01:39:08,480
i'm glad to be back i've been back for

2844
01:39:11,990 --> 01:39:10,239
two two shows i'll be back again this

2845
01:39:14,870 --> 01:39:12,000
friday every friday i'm trying to go on

2846
01:39:16,310 --> 01:39:14,880
it seven not seven sorry seven p.m

2847
01:39:18,709 --> 01:39:16,320
pacific 10

2848
01:39:19,830 --> 01:39:18,719
10 p.m eastern uh unless you've been

2849
01:39:22,390 --> 01:39:19,840
able to have a schedule

2850
01:39:24,830 --> 01:39:22,400
i i the only time i can have a schedule

2851
01:39:28,070 --> 01:39:24,840
is when i have a guest and i have to

2852
01:39:30,390 --> 01:39:28,080
yeah you know it worked

2853
01:39:32,629 --> 01:39:30,400
brothers somebody had a good question uh

2854
01:39:33,990 --> 01:39:32,639
diana asks is there any room in buddhism

2855
01:39:37,189 --> 01:39:34,000
for intelligent design

2856
01:39:40,470 --> 01:39:37,199
or for disabled births not being karmic

2857
01:39:42,709 --> 01:39:40,480
so this for me oh sorry accidentally

2858
01:39:44,870 --> 01:39:42,719
clicked on button

2859
01:39:46,470 --> 01:39:44,880
i closed it i was gonna be like no no

2860
01:39:47,510 --> 01:39:46,480
you can get right back in if you do it's

2861
01:39:50,550 --> 01:39:47,520
okay

2862
01:39:51,990 --> 01:39:50,560
so um this is actually one of the things

2863
01:39:55,750 --> 01:39:52,000
that i have

2864
01:39:57,270 --> 01:39:55,760
a i take issue with within buddhism

2865
01:39:59,350 --> 01:39:57,280
this is a part of buddhism i don't

2866
01:40:02,550 --> 01:39:59,360
subscribe to

2867
01:40:05,750 --> 01:40:02,560
um because with regards specifically to

2868
01:40:09,669 --> 01:40:05,760
that disabled births not being karmic

2869
01:40:11,030 --> 01:40:09,679
the while i do believe in karma

2870
01:40:13,189 --> 01:40:11,040
and this is why i said earlier i don't

2871
01:40:14,709 --> 01:40:13,199
believe in reincarnation and the same

2872
01:40:17,109 --> 01:40:14,719
to the same degree that it gets brought

2873
01:40:19,590 --> 01:40:17,119
up in buddhism

2874
01:40:21,270 --> 01:40:19,600
this i take issue with in the idea that

2875
01:40:24,310 --> 01:40:21,280
any sort of

2876
01:40:28,229 --> 01:40:24,320
disability at birth um

2877
01:40:30,390 --> 01:40:28,239
any sort of tragic incident that happens

2878
01:40:31,750 --> 01:40:30,400
it's attributed to something that that

2879
01:40:33,109 --> 01:40:31,760
it's blamed on that person from

2880
01:40:34,229 --> 01:40:33,119
something from their previous life or

2881
01:40:35,750 --> 01:40:34,239
their current life

2882
01:40:37,189 --> 01:40:35,760
yeah and i have a big problem with this

2883
01:40:38,790 --> 01:40:37,199
obviously because i have an

2884
01:40:39,430 --> 01:40:38,800
eight-year-old son who's non-verbal

2885
01:40:41,030 --> 01:40:39,440
autistic

2886
01:40:43,350 --> 01:40:41,040
and the thought that he's paying for

2887
01:40:44,790 --> 01:40:43,360
some sin from a previous life i just

2888
01:40:47,189 --> 01:40:44,800
totally disagree with

2889
01:40:48,870 --> 01:40:47,199
yes so personally from me like not this

2890
01:40:50,870 --> 01:40:48,880
does anything really to do with buddhism

2891
01:40:52,709 --> 01:40:50,880
i do believe in reincarnation

2892
01:40:55,430 --> 01:40:52,719
but my personal belief with

2893
01:40:57,350 --> 01:40:55,440
reincarnation is you get the choice

2894
01:40:58,790 --> 01:40:57,360
when to reincarnate and you also get the

2895
01:41:00,870 --> 01:40:58,800
choice of

2896
01:41:02,310 --> 01:41:00,880
what you're going to reincarnate as well

2897
01:41:05,350 --> 01:41:02,320
that's interesting

2898
01:41:07,669 --> 01:41:05,360
so because your goal is to i want this

2899
01:41:09,030 --> 01:41:07,679
lesson in my life i want to i want this

2900
01:41:12,149 --> 01:41:09,040
experience i want this

2901
01:41:13,590 --> 01:41:12,159
spiritual basically knowledge so i want

2902
01:41:14,470 --> 01:41:13,600
to see that's something that i struggle

2903
01:41:16,470 --> 01:41:14,480
with too because

2904
01:41:18,629 --> 01:41:16,480
i kind of think like who would really

2905
01:41:20,950 --> 01:41:18,639
say i want to be born

2906
01:41:22,950 --> 01:41:20,960
a paraplegic and have to deal with that

2907
01:41:25,430 --> 01:41:22,960
my whole life or i want to be born

2908
01:41:27,350 --> 01:41:25,440
dirt poor living in a ghetto where like

2909
01:41:27,830 --> 01:41:27,360
half my friends get murdered before i'm

2910
01:41:29,669 --> 01:41:27,840
18

2911
01:41:30,950 --> 01:41:29,679
or you know what i mean like that that

2912
01:41:33,430 --> 01:41:30,960
concept that you

2913
01:41:34,229 --> 01:41:33,440
select or you choose the life that you

2914
01:41:37,510 --> 01:41:34,239
want

2915
01:41:39,990 --> 01:41:37,520
something that i struggle with but

2916
01:41:41,830 --> 01:41:40,000
then i could see that if somebody lived

2917
01:41:44,149 --> 01:41:41,840
say a life of luxury and they didn't

2918
01:41:45,910 --> 01:41:44,159
really feel like they learned much

2919
01:41:47,750 --> 01:41:45,920
that maybe you can learn something from

2920
01:41:50,870 --> 01:41:47,760
that kind of a life more so than uh

2921
01:41:52,950 --> 01:41:50,880
an easy life yeah

2922
01:41:54,310 --> 01:41:52,960
and i think and that's kind of the idea

2923
01:41:56,470 --> 01:41:54,320
i guess for

2924
01:41:57,350 --> 01:41:56,480
for me um is that you're learning that

2925
01:41:58,629 --> 01:41:57,360
yeah in the

2926
01:42:00,470 --> 01:41:58,639
in the moment while you're living that

2927
01:42:01,830 --> 01:42:00,480
life you totally you're

2928
01:42:03,910 --> 01:42:01,840
you're like why would i choose this i

2929
01:42:07,430 --> 01:42:03,920
hate this this is terrible

2930
01:42:09,189 --> 01:42:07,440
but but theoretically in my mind

2931
01:42:10,550 --> 01:42:09,199
before you incarnated there was a reason

2932
01:42:12,070 --> 01:42:10,560
you made this decision to do this

2933
01:42:15,590 --> 01:42:12,080
because you wanted some sort of

2934
01:42:16,870 --> 01:42:15,600
growth to occur yeah and jasmine emerick

2935
01:42:18,790 --> 01:42:16,880
has a great question what form of

2936
01:42:21,350 --> 01:42:18,800
buddhism does kelly practice and does

2937
01:42:24,550 --> 01:42:21,360
her buddhist practice include or revere

2938
01:42:27,510 --> 01:42:24,560
the up and shads i i don't know how to

2939
01:42:29,750 --> 01:42:27,520
say that open chats

2940
01:42:30,550 --> 01:42:29,760
hindu based i believe that they're more

2941
01:42:33,990 --> 01:42:30,560
hindu based

2942
01:42:37,669 --> 01:42:34,000
i don't revere them personally um i

2943
01:42:39,990 --> 01:42:37,679
practice pretty straightforward

2944
01:42:41,350 --> 01:42:40,000
mahayana buddhism which i guess would

2945
01:42:45,030 --> 01:42:41,360
kind of be the equivalent of

2946
01:42:45,990 --> 01:42:45,040
non-denominational protestant christian

2947
01:42:47,510 --> 01:42:46,000
yeah

2948
01:42:49,590 --> 01:42:47,520
interesting or it's just like the

2949
01:42:50,390 --> 01:42:49,600
general version of it that's what i

2950
01:42:51,990 --> 01:42:50,400
practice

2951
01:42:53,350 --> 01:42:52,000
but but again there are things i leave

2952
01:42:55,270 --> 01:42:53,360
out i leave out a lot of the

2953
01:42:56,950 --> 01:42:55,280
reincarnation pieces i leave out the

2954
01:42:57,669 --> 01:42:56,960
hell realms i leave out those things

2955
01:43:01,910 --> 01:42:57,679
don't

2956
01:43:04,550 --> 01:43:01,920
what i follow is

2957
01:43:06,629 --> 01:43:04,560
you know being a good person being

2958
01:43:08,629 --> 01:43:06,639
trying to achieve that bodhisattva level

2959
01:43:10,790 --> 01:43:08,639
basically trying to help other people

2960
01:43:12,870 --> 01:43:10,800
those are the things i focus on

2961
01:43:14,709 --> 01:43:12,880
well that's definitely interesting and

2962
01:43:16,709 --> 01:43:14,719
do you go to like a temple or do you

2963
01:43:19,189 --> 01:43:16,719
just help

2964
01:43:20,950 --> 01:43:19,199
california when i lived there and they

2965
01:43:21,830 --> 01:43:20,960
were easier to access yeah i would go to

2966
01:43:24,390 --> 01:43:21,840
the temple i'd go

2967
01:43:24,870 --> 01:43:24,400
probably once a month at least to kind

2968
01:43:27,189 --> 01:43:24,880
of go

2969
01:43:28,310 --> 01:43:27,199
get the energy pray see the monks do all

2970
01:43:30,709 --> 01:43:28,320
that stuff

2971
01:43:33,430 --> 01:43:30,719
now that i've relocated it's a little

2972
01:43:36,870 --> 01:43:33,440
bit more difficult because

2973
01:43:38,870 --> 01:43:36,880
there are buddhist temples but also

2974
01:43:40,550 --> 01:43:38,880
you're looking at a cultural issue too

2975
01:43:42,390 --> 01:43:40,560
because i'm used to going to vietnamese

2976
01:43:45,270 --> 01:43:42,400
buddhist temples

2977
01:43:46,790 --> 01:43:45,280
i could go but going to a they have

2978
01:43:48,229 --> 01:43:46,800
those in california but not in new

2979
01:43:49,910 --> 01:43:48,239
jersey or wherever you are

2980
01:43:51,189 --> 01:43:49,920
how about you but you're looking at i'm

2981
01:43:52,629 --> 01:43:51,199
gonna have to drive like two or three

2982
01:43:54,629 --> 01:43:52,639
hours to get there

2983
01:43:56,709 --> 01:43:54,639
i understand that i have to find the

2984
01:43:59,430 --> 01:43:56,719
right type of temple with the right

2985
01:43:59,830 --> 01:43:59,440
cultural things that i'm used to so that

2986
01:44:30,790 --> 01:43:59,840
i

2987
01:44:32,629 --> 01:44:30,800
know really what they say

2988
01:44:33,830 --> 01:44:32,639
everything is written phonetically so

2989
01:44:34,870 --> 01:44:33,840
that you're doing the chance with the

2990
01:44:37,350 --> 01:44:34,880
monks then you're kind of

2991
01:44:38,229 --> 01:44:37,360
going through the whole thing so oh

2992
01:44:41,910 --> 01:44:38,239
that's interesting

2993
01:44:43,669 --> 01:44:41,920
i don't i don't know uh i wouldn't like

2994
01:44:44,950 --> 01:44:43,679
i would like to attend a service like

2995
01:44:48,070 --> 01:44:44,960
that because most

2996
01:44:49,270 --> 01:44:48,080
mostly i went to just meditation classes

2997
01:44:51,830 --> 01:44:49,280
and lectures

2998
01:44:52,790 --> 01:44:51,840
not really like uh what would be

2999
01:44:54,390 --> 01:44:52,800
considered like a

3000
01:44:56,870 --> 01:44:54,400
sunday service for a christian

3001
01:44:58,709 --> 01:44:56,880
equivalent you know

3002
01:45:00,790 --> 01:44:58,719
yeah but i really like the lectures

3003
01:45:02,390 --> 01:45:00,800
because they were all

3004
01:45:03,830 --> 01:45:02,400
you know you never knew they would tell

3005
01:45:05,030 --> 01:45:03,840
you in advance like they're going to be

3006
01:45:07,590 --> 01:45:05,040
lecturing on

3007
01:45:08,470 --> 01:45:07,600
you know uh on the four pillars or

3008
01:45:09,510 --> 01:45:08,480
they're going to be lecturing on

3009
01:45:13,030 --> 01:45:09,520
impermanence

3010
01:45:15,189 --> 01:45:13,040
or on guilt dealing with guilt or like

3011
01:45:16,790 --> 01:45:15,199
so it was great like if you had an issue

3012
01:45:18,870 --> 01:45:16,800
you just kind of waited it out and

3013
01:45:20,629 --> 01:45:18,880
looked at the schedule

3014
01:45:23,430 --> 01:45:20,639
you know like i'm feeling very guilty

3015
01:45:25,430 --> 01:45:23,440
let's go learn to deal with our guilt

3016
01:45:27,189 --> 01:45:25,440
and again it was uh it was and and it

3017
01:45:29,030 --> 01:45:27,199
was like traveling monks from all over

3018
01:45:30,070 --> 01:45:29,040
you could get a guy from japan one week

3019
01:45:31,830 --> 01:45:30,080
and a guy from

3020
01:45:33,750 --> 01:45:31,840
india the next week and somebody from

3021
01:45:36,790 --> 01:45:33,760
europe oh yeah

3022
01:45:38,629 --> 01:45:36,800
they do travel to kind of go to other

3023
01:45:40,229 --> 01:45:38,639
you know to go to other temples to kind

3024
01:45:43,109 --> 01:45:40,239
of you know

3025
01:45:43,669 --> 01:45:43,119
share and also to share with different

3026
01:45:47,590 --> 01:45:43,679
um

3027
01:45:50,390 --> 01:45:47,600
kind of i guess sex of buddhist monks

3028
01:45:52,229 --> 01:45:50,400
do you have sort of a a suggestion for

3029
01:45:53,830 --> 01:45:52,239
like beginners books for people that may

3030
01:45:58,070 --> 01:45:53,840
have interest and want to learn more

3031
01:45:59,990 --> 01:45:58,080
or there's so many rights

3032
01:46:01,590 --> 01:46:00,000
i there's a book though that i highly

3033
01:46:03,030 --> 01:46:01,600
recommend i

3034
01:46:04,870 --> 01:46:03,040
i meant to bring it up here with me but

3035
01:46:05,350 --> 01:46:04,880
i forgot i'll show on the next show but

3036
01:46:08,709 --> 01:46:05,360
it's called

3037
01:46:10,149 --> 01:46:08,719
meditation the only way and if you want

3038
01:46:13,669 --> 01:46:10,159
to learn to meditate

3039
01:46:15,669 --> 01:46:13,679
it's got just that's what did it for me

3040
01:46:16,149 --> 01:46:15,679
i had more complicated books and i

3041
01:46:20,070 --> 01:46:16,159
couldn't

3042
01:46:23,109 --> 01:46:20,080
meditation the only way

3043
01:46:26,229 --> 01:46:23,119
and after that it just seemed to be

3044
01:46:28,149 --> 01:46:26,239
a simplified you know start with

3045
01:46:29,590 --> 01:46:28,159
focus on the breath and pushing thoughts

3046
01:46:31,109 --> 01:46:29,600
back and and then there's

3047
01:46:32,709 --> 01:46:31,119
stuff in there about the impermanence

3048
01:46:33,830 --> 01:46:32,719
meditations and different forms of

3049
01:46:38,709 --> 01:46:33,840
meditation

3050
01:46:39,189 --> 01:46:38,719
want to learn to meditate i will get the

3051
01:46:41,189 --> 01:46:39,199
author

3052
01:46:43,270 --> 01:46:41,199
and uh or put a screenshot on my twitter

3053
01:46:44,550 --> 01:46:43,280
later i that's a book that i recommend

3054
01:46:45,590 --> 01:46:44,560
is there any that you would recommend

3055
01:46:48,950 --> 01:46:45,600
for people who have

3056
01:46:52,709 --> 01:46:48,960
more interest with regards to meditation

3057
01:46:53,189 --> 01:46:52,719
specifically not not really i'll be

3058
01:46:57,590 --> 01:46:53,199
honest

3059
01:47:00,629 --> 01:46:59,510
there's so much there's so many

3060
01:47:02,310 --> 01:47:00,639
different sources out there that it's

3061
01:47:03,590 --> 01:47:02,320
hard to kind of pick one

3062
01:47:05,109 --> 01:47:03,600
but yeah i mean what you're saying like

3063
01:47:06,709 --> 01:47:05,119
that book that you're saying it sounds

3064
01:47:08,229 --> 01:47:06,719
like it's a really good one because

3065
01:47:10,070 --> 01:47:08,239
there are different types of meditation

3066
01:47:12,629 --> 01:47:10,080
as you mentioned there is like walking

3067
01:47:13,910 --> 01:47:12,639
or active meditation which works a lot

3068
01:47:15,750 --> 01:47:13,920
better for some people

3069
01:47:17,910 --> 01:47:15,760
depends on the person not enough people

3070
01:47:19,750 --> 01:47:17,920
can't sit still for a half hour

3071
01:47:23,990 --> 01:47:19,760
yeah they can't sit still don't think of

3072
01:47:27,510 --> 01:47:25,350
yeah they do better walking through

3073
01:47:27,990 --> 01:47:27,520
nature and kind of just clearing their

3074
01:47:30,950 --> 01:47:28,000
mind

3075
01:47:32,709 --> 01:47:30,960
this is it six is designed found it oh

3076
01:47:33,030 --> 01:47:32,719
medication the only question the only

3077
01:47:40,310 --> 01:47:33,040
way

3078
01:47:44,229 --> 01:47:43,109
and he's a buddhist monk and uh this is

3079
01:47:45,750 --> 01:47:44,239
the book that i tell

3080
01:47:47,830 --> 01:47:45,760
everybody if you want to learn to

3081
01:47:49,430 --> 01:47:47,840
meditate this is the best book and it's

3082
01:47:51,910 --> 01:47:49,440
only like 10 bucks or

3083
01:47:53,270 --> 01:47:51,920
i don't know i got it at one of those

3084
01:47:55,830 --> 01:47:53,280
places that you write

3085
01:47:57,590 --> 01:47:55,840
to this is before the internet you would

3086
01:47:58,950 --> 01:47:57,600
like write them a letter

3087
01:48:01,109 --> 01:47:58,960
and they would send you a list of the

3088
01:48:01,990 --> 01:48:01,119
books that they had and then you would

3089
01:48:04,149 --> 01:48:02,000
send them

3090
01:48:06,070 --> 01:48:04,159
like a form back and some money for the

3091
01:48:08,470 --> 01:48:06,080
just a postage they would tell you like

3092
01:48:09,270 --> 01:48:08,480
postage is 1.50 a book or something like

3093
01:48:10,709 --> 01:48:09,280
that

3094
01:48:12,310 --> 01:48:10,719
and then they would send you back 10

3095
01:48:15,430 --> 01:48:12,320
books if you sent them the

3096
01:48:17,270 --> 01:48:15,440
12 or whatever there's all of these

3097
01:48:20,310 --> 01:48:17,280
different buddhist societies whose sole

3098
01:48:22,470 --> 01:48:20,320
purpose is to print books on dharma or

3099
01:48:23,910 --> 01:48:22,480
the teachings of buddha or meditation

3100
01:48:26,470 --> 01:48:23,920
and share them with the world

3101
01:48:28,629 --> 01:48:26,480
for as little money as possible just to

3102
01:48:30,470 --> 01:48:28,639
get that information out there so when

3103
01:48:32,470 --> 01:48:30,480
clowns are trying to sell you a 300

3104
01:48:33,910 --> 01:48:32,480
meditation course i guarantee you'll get

3105
01:48:35,990 --> 01:48:33,920
just as much out of this 10

3106
01:48:37,270 --> 01:48:36,000
book so i'm glad you found that thank

3107
01:48:40,149 --> 01:48:37,280
you six cents

3108
01:48:41,590 --> 01:48:40,159
yes yes and you're right there are um

3109
01:48:42,149 --> 01:48:41,600
they there are basically groups that

3110
01:48:45,270 --> 01:48:42,159
will

3111
01:48:46,790 --> 01:48:45,280
if you google them for some reason like

3112
01:48:47,990 --> 01:48:46,800
it's like i can almost remember the name

3113
01:48:52,629 --> 01:48:48,000
of it but they're like basically

3114
01:48:56,950 --> 01:48:55,510
if you just google buddhism book society

3115
01:48:57,669 --> 01:48:56,960
or something like that you'll find a

3116
01:48:58,550 --> 01:48:57,679
bunch of them

3117
01:49:00,229 --> 01:48:58,560
there's a bunch of different

3118
01:49:01,189 --> 01:49:00,239
organizations some of them are in japan

3119
01:49:04,709 --> 01:49:01,199
some of them are in

3120
01:49:07,350 --> 01:49:04,719
uh are in tibet some of them are europe

3121
01:49:08,790 --> 01:49:07,360
i think there's one in the united states

3122
01:49:11,510 --> 01:49:08,800
and uh

3123
01:49:12,390 --> 01:49:11,520
yeah that that to me is my favorite book

3124
01:49:15,350 --> 01:49:12,400
on meditation

3125
01:49:16,950 --> 01:49:15,360
i gotta get some more not that book i

3126
01:49:18,790 --> 01:49:16,960
mean more of that book but you know

3127
01:49:20,070 --> 01:49:18,800
like it's good to be reminded of these

3128
01:49:21,990 --> 01:49:20,080
things and a lot of the books i found

3129
01:49:24,310 --> 01:49:22,000
have a lot of similar things in them

3130
01:49:26,830 --> 01:49:24,320
in regard to meditation it's just

3131
01:49:28,070 --> 01:49:26,840
different approaches for teaching it

3132
01:49:29,669 --> 01:49:28,080
maybe

3133
01:49:31,990 --> 01:49:29,679
yeah i mean i think that really

3134
01:49:35,350 --> 01:49:32,000
meditation at the end of the day

3135
01:49:37,589 --> 01:49:35,360
is a concept that you know

3136
01:49:39,109 --> 01:49:37,599
the end result is the same and really

3137
01:49:41,109 --> 01:49:39,119
the process of getting there

3138
01:49:42,229 --> 01:49:41,119
is really the same it's just kind of

3139
01:49:43,750 --> 01:49:42,239
looking at

3140
01:49:45,109 --> 01:49:43,760
different ways to approach it so that

3141
01:49:46,790 --> 01:49:45,119
people can understand because different

3142
01:49:49,350 --> 01:49:46,800
people understand it and can

3143
01:49:51,669 --> 01:49:49,360
function with it differently than others

3144
01:49:53,430 --> 01:49:51,679
it's kind of how i see it i guess

3145
01:49:55,109 --> 01:49:53,440
yeah so if we have any more questions

3146
01:49:58,310 --> 01:49:55,119
for uh kelly

3147
01:50:00,629 --> 01:49:58,320
and please do uh definitely follow her

3148
01:50:02,709 --> 01:50:00,639
channel and subscribe to her channel

3149
01:50:03,669 --> 01:50:02,719
she covers a lot of strange topics like

3150
01:50:06,390 --> 01:50:03,679
you were doing the

3151
01:50:08,310 --> 01:50:06,400
rancher book i wasn't ranting a book but

3152
01:50:08,950 --> 01:50:08,320
i gave up on that because that was too

3153
01:50:10,950 --> 01:50:08,960
much

3154
01:50:12,070 --> 01:50:10,960
this kelly there's two books that i

3155
01:50:14,390 --> 01:50:12,080
can't

3156
01:50:15,109 --> 01:50:14,400
finish and i've tried multiple times

3157
01:50:17,430 --> 01:50:15,119
their their

3158
01:50:18,709 --> 01:50:17,440
urantia book is one of them and the

3159
01:50:20,950 --> 01:50:18,719
bhagavad-gita

3160
01:50:22,229 --> 01:50:20,960
i can't get through either of them have

3161
01:50:23,990 --> 01:50:22,239
the bhagavad-gita

3162
01:50:25,270 --> 01:50:24,000
that's my goal my goal is to get through

3163
01:50:27,270 --> 01:50:25,280
that yeah

3164
01:50:28,470 --> 01:50:27,280
i try to get about like a quarter of the

3165
01:50:30,950 --> 01:50:28,480
way in and i just

3166
01:50:32,550 --> 01:50:30,960
can't because it's so it's those two

3167
01:50:33,589 --> 01:50:32,560
books are very similar in that they're

3168
01:50:36,070 --> 01:50:33,599
so

3169
01:50:38,310 --> 01:50:36,080
information dense yeah you can't just

3170
01:50:38,790 --> 01:50:38,320
read 20 pages of it you've got to read a

3171
01:50:41,430 --> 01:50:38,800
page

3172
01:50:42,629 --> 01:50:41,440
and stop and think about it for a while

3173
01:50:44,310 --> 01:50:42,639
both these books

3174
01:50:45,910 --> 01:50:44,320
you got to stop and think about it

3175
01:50:47,669 --> 01:50:45,920
because i want to know what is this

3176
01:50:49,350 --> 01:50:47,679
trying to teach me what is this

3177
01:50:51,669 --> 01:50:49,360
especially the bhagavad gita like i

3178
01:50:54,149 --> 01:50:51,679
don't know some of it seemed to be like

3179
01:50:55,510 --> 01:50:54,159
just crazy stories and i don't know what

3180
01:50:57,189 --> 01:50:55,520
you know i want to know what they're

3181
01:50:59,270 --> 01:50:57,199
trying to teach me here

3182
01:51:00,870 --> 01:50:59,280
that was those two books are rough i

3183
01:51:06,790 --> 01:51:00,880
can't get through them maybe i gotta buy

3184
01:51:08,790 --> 01:51:06,800
some bookmarks and try again

3185
01:51:10,709 --> 01:51:08,800
yes you can follow kelly on twitter

3186
01:51:13,350 --> 01:51:10,719
where she it does a better job

3187
01:51:14,310 --> 01:51:13,360
than me of announcing her shows in

3188
01:51:15,910 --> 01:51:14,320
advance

3189
01:51:18,830 --> 01:51:15,920
i'm terrible i'm like yeah i'm streaming

3190
01:51:29,109 --> 01:51:18,840
right now you have five minutes

3191
01:51:32,470 --> 01:51:30,790
it is not about portals everybody wants

3192
01:51:36,709 --> 01:51:32,480
you to do the portal shows again

3193
01:51:39,270 --> 01:51:36,719
come on you know what i like portals i

3194
01:51:41,189 --> 01:51:39,280
love portal i spent

3195
01:51:43,109 --> 01:51:41,199
over a year researching them which is

3196
01:51:45,109 --> 01:51:43,119
how i had so much information to do all

3197
01:51:47,430 --> 01:51:45,119
the portal episode

3198
01:51:48,709 --> 01:51:47,440
um and i guess you know for just 250

3199
01:51:50,790 --> 01:51:48,719
times 12

3200
01:51:52,790 --> 01:51:50,800
that psychic sarah adams can teach you

3201
01:51:55,830 --> 01:51:52,800
how to open stargates

3202
01:51:57,350 --> 01:51:55,840
i don't see it's only 250 times 12. i

3203
01:51:59,109 --> 01:51:57,360
did a show where i said show us the

3204
01:52:01,109 --> 01:51:59,119
stargates because if you're teaching

3205
01:52:02,390 --> 01:52:01,119
people to open stargates you should be

3206
01:52:05,589 --> 01:52:02,400
able to show me

3207
01:52:08,390 --> 01:52:05,599
you opening this stargate that's

3208
01:52:08,790 --> 01:52:08,400
it's kind of like portals stargates yeah

3209
01:52:10,390 --> 01:52:08,800
yeah

3210
01:52:11,910 --> 01:52:10,400
so kind of what kind of shows do you

3211
01:52:13,430 --> 01:52:11,920
have that are upcoming do you want to

3212
01:52:13,990 --> 01:52:13,440
give people a tease of what you have

3213
01:52:17,189 --> 01:52:14,000
planned

3214
01:52:18,390 --> 01:52:17,199
or worse so this friday i'm going to be

3215
01:52:20,550 --> 01:52:18,400
doing a show on

3216
01:52:21,990 --> 01:52:20,560
numerology to help people kind of

3217
01:52:23,430 --> 01:52:22,000
understand how it works

3218
01:52:25,030 --> 01:52:23,440
what it is because i think there's some

3219
01:52:27,109 --> 01:52:25,040
misconceptions about it

3220
01:52:28,310 --> 01:52:27,119
and i'm going to be doing a few readings

3221
01:52:29,990 --> 01:52:28,320
for a couple people

3222
01:52:32,390 --> 01:52:30,000
and teach people how to do their own

3223
01:52:34,229 --> 01:52:32,400
reading numerology readings really

3224
01:52:36,550 --> 01:52:34,239
yeah on friday because i figured why not

3225
01:52:39,669 --> 01:52:36,560
do something fun for the holiday weekend

3226
01:52:41,750 --> 01:52:39,679
if people are stuck at home yeah i'm a

3227
01:52:44,310 --> 01:52:41,760
loser like people are like

3228
01:52:47,990 --> 01:52:44,320
are we doing a show tomorrow i go yeah

3229
01:52:50,870 --> 01:52:48,000
yeah i might do a show thursday night oh

3230
01:52:51,589 --> 01:52:50,880
i don't know i got nothing going on so

3231
01:52:55,109 --> 01:52:51,599
you know

3232
01:52:56,070 --> 01:52:55,119
i'm with you yeah so i'm doing that this

3233
01:52:59,109 --> 01:52:56,080
week and the next

3234
01:53:01,990 --> 01:52:59,119
friday i have an interview with um

3235
01:53:05,669 --> 01:53:02,000
someone who claims to have translated

3236
01:53:09,750 --> 01:53:07,669
uh which i'm not sure if you're familiar

3237
01:53:11,990 --> 01:53:09,760
with the what manuscripts

3238
01:53:14,470 --> 01:53:12,000
voynich manuscript isn't that the

3239
01:53:16,950 --> 01:53:14,480
unreadable book or the impossible book

3240
01:53:18,870 --> 01:53:16,960
yeah it's important he translated it

3241
01:53:20,629 --> 01:53:18,880
he's like the only one in history then

3242
01:53:21,910 --> 01:53:20,639
it's got like the pictures of the plants

3243
01:53:24,709 --> 01:53:21,920
inside and like the way

3244
01:53:25,750 --> 01:53:24,719
that's a crazy mystery book yeah he

3245
01:53:27,109 --> 01:53:25,760
translated

3246
01:53:28,790 --> 01:53:27,119
well there's been a few people that have

3247
01:53:30,709 --> 01:53:28,800
claimed to translate it but no one

3248
01:53:32,470 --> 01:53:30,719
can no one can confirm if it's been

3249
01:53:34,790 --> 01:53:32,480
translated by those people

3250
01:53:35,910 --> 01:53:34,800
so he reached out to me and has a whole

3251
01:53:37,430 --> 01:53:35,920
system

3252
01:53:39,589 --> 01:53:37,440
um that he's going to talk about that he

3253
01:53:41,510 --> 01:53:39,599
believes he has translated it

3254
01:53:42,629 --> 01:53:41,520
so i'm interviewing him next friday and

3255
01:53:45,589 --> 01:53:42,639
then the following

3256
01:53:47,830 --> 01:53:45,599
friday on the 11th i'll be inter alfie

3257
01:53:49,350 --> 01:53:47,840
solomon's is going to come on

3258
01:53:51,030 --> 01:53:49,360
i'm not interviewing him though we're

3259
01:53:54,390 --> 01:53:51,040
just going to have a discussion

3260
01:53:55,750 --> 01:53:54,400
on yeah religion didn't feel like this

3261
01:53:56,709 --> 01:53:55,760
was an interview i thought like this was

3262
01:53:59,990 --> 01:53:56,719
just a talk

3263
01:54:01,669 --> 01:54:00,000
it was yes so so it's gonna be similar

3264
01:54:04,229 --> 01:54:01,679
kind of to this i guess

3265
01:54:05,030 --> 01:54:04,239
this one's a classy show do you know why

3266
01:54:08,470 --> 01:54:05,040
there was no

3267
01:54:10,870 --> 01:54:08,480
kissing lesbians on the side sometimes

3268
01:54:11,270 --> 01:54:10,880
here i kept it classy for you kelly i

3269
01:54:13,430 --> 01:54:11,280
did

3270
01:54:15,189 --> 01:54:13,440
and i had all these questions that i

3271
01:54:19,109 --> 01:54:15,199
took out because i said

3272
01:54:21,030 --> 01:54:19,119
that's too personal or that yeah

3273
01:54:22,790 --> 01:54:21,040
so i don't think that anybody wanted to

3274
01:54:24,149 --> 01:54:22,800
hear you talk about your favorite sexual

3275
01:54:27,189 --> 01:54:24,159
positions so we

3276
01:54:31,430 --> 01:54:27,199
cut those unclassy questions out we did

3277
01:54:34,870 --> 01:54:33,910
or your thoughts on tantric love sex

3278
01:54:42,070 --> 01:54:34,880
right

3279
01:54:43,750 --> 01:54:42,080
you know from tibetan buddhism yeah

3280
01:54:45,990 --> 01:54:43,760
somebody else so i could have asked

3281
01:54:48,950 --> 01:54:46,000
about you know do you like

3282
01:54:50,229 --> 01:54:48,960
status okay no no never mind would you

3283
01:54:52,550 --> 01:54:50,239
ever do one on

3284
01:54:53,350 --> 01:54:52,560
esoteric astrology i'm studying it right

3285
01:54:56,470 --> 01:54:53,360
now jill d

3286
01:54:58,310 --> 01:54:56,480
asks um actually i would

3287
01:54:59,510 --> 01:54:58,320
i'm working through the different

3288
01:55:02,790 --> 01:54:59,520
ologies

3289
01:55:03,510 --> 01:55:02,800
right now so i understand right like you

3290
01:55:07,030 --> 01:55:03,520
know typical

3291
01:55:08,950 --> 01:55:07,040
astrology i've done uh lunar or chinese

3292
01:55:10,709 --> 01:55:08,960
astrology i'm going through numerology

3293
01:55:12,070 --> 01:55:10,719
now but there's also beta gastro there's

3294
01:55:14,629 --> 01:55:12,080
all sorts of things

3295
01:55:15,910 --> 01:55:14,639
so yes um esoteric astrology is actually

3296
01:55:18,950 --> 01:55:15,920
on my

3297
01:55:20,390 --> 01:55:18,960
my list so okay

3298
01:55:21,750 --> 01:55:20,400
so any more questions otherwise we're

3299
01:55:25,030 --> 01:55:21,760
going to wrap it up and let her get out

3300
01:55:26,550 --> 01:55:25,040
of here i think i kept there long enough

3301
01:55:28,070 --> 01:55:26,560
but i'm glad that you were able to come

3302
01:55:28,870 --> 01:55:28,080
here and i'm really glad that your

3303
01:55:30,390 --> 01:55:28,880
show's back

3304
01:55:32,149 --> 01:55:30,400
because it gives me something else to do

3305
01:55:33,030 --> 01:55:32,159
on a friday night again i don't have the

3306
01:55:35,350 --> 01:55:33,040
club

3307
01:55:37,589 --> 01:55:35,360
i i'm glad to be back to you and i

3308
01:55:40,790 --> 01:55:37,599
appreciate you asking me on

3309
01:55:43,669 --> 01:55:40,800
um funny story some random person

3310
01:55:44,070 --> 01:55:43,679
that i happen to meet has nothing to do

3311
01:55:46,310 --> 01:55:44,080
with

3312
01:55:48,070 --> 01:55:46,320
any of this community or youtube or

3313
01:55:50,229 --> 01:55:48,080
anything i was just happy to talk to

3314
01:55:52,070 --> 01:55:50,239
them and i mentioned i was on youtube

3315
01:55:53,510 --> 01:55:52,080
they tell me i look they said they

3316
01:55:53,990 --> 01:55:53,520
thought i looked familiar and i've

3317
01:55:56,550 --> 01:55:54,000
actually

3318
01:55:57,830 --> 01:55:56,560
heard and seen my channel because their

3319
01:55:58,790 --> 01:55:57,840
friend listens to it when they go to

3320
01:56:01,189 --> 01:55:58,800
sleep

3321
01:56:02,790 --> 01:56:01,199
oh that's interesting well like that is

3322
01:56:04,870 --> 01:56:02,800
a weird

3323
01:56:06,550 --> 01:56:04,880
kind of synchronicity that someone

3324
01:56:07,669 --> 01:56:06,560
happens to know who i am who has nothing

3325
01:56:09,350 --> 01:56:07,679
to do with any of this

3326
01:56:10,709 --> 01:56:09,360
just because somebody listens to me when

3327
01:56:14,629 --> 01:56:10,719
they sleep yeah

3328
01:56:17,350 --> 01:56:14,639
see you're internet famous

3329
01:56:18,950 --> 01:56:17,360
in a weird way but yeah yeah no that's a

3330
01:56:21,430 --> 01:56:18,960
good thing it's nice when

3331
01:56:22,070 --> 01:56:21,440
uh people like sort of know you know

3332
01:56:25,189 --> 01:56:22,080
know

3333
01:56:26,070 --> 01:56:25,199
a little bit about what you do i uh had

3334
01:56:29,030 --> 01:56:26,080
somebody move

3335
01:56:30,550 --> 01:56:29,040
in well when i say near the cabin he's

3336
01:56:33,030 --> 01:56:30,560
like miles away but

3337
01:56:34,229 --> 01:56:33,040
he was sort of a conspiracy guy and he

3338
01:56:37,910 --> 01:56:34,239
knew who i was

3339
01:56:40,870 --> 01:56:37,920
he said don't you have a show on youtube

3340
01:56:42,229 --> 01:56:40,880
about paranormal stuff and i go yeah he

3341
01:56:43,270 --> 01:56:42,239
goes i'm sure i've seen it but he didn't

3342
01:56:45,270 --> 01:56:43,280
remember what it was

3343
01:56:46,470 --> 01:56:45,280
but he saw himself and that was weird

3344
01:56:47,910 --> 01:56:46,480
because it was

3345
01:56:49,430 --> 01:56:47,920
weird if somebody just suddenly said

3346
01:56:52,070 --> 01:56:49,440
that to me i looked around like this

3347
01:56:55,189 --> 01:56:52,080
with the glasses on so i guess

3348
01:56:58,550 --> 01:56:55,199
easy to spot right either

3349
01:57:00,149 --> 01:56:58,560
a bad man in black so

3350
01:57:02,149 --> 01:57:00,159
yes and out of mind this is a good note

3351
01:57:03,510 --> 01:57:02,159
to end on says thanks kelly nice to see

3352
01:57:07,669 --> 01:57:03,520
you have a good turkey day

3353
01:57:09,189 --> 01:57:07,679
everyone so i appreciate you spending

3354
01:57:10,870 --> 01:57:09,199
the time to be with us i'm going to play

3355
01:57:12,149 --> 01:57:10,880
a bumper and play us out if you want to

3356
01:57:13,669 --> 01:57:12,159
stick around for just a few minutes

3357
01:57:17,189 --> 01:57:13,679
until that plays

3358
01:57:19,350 --> 01:57:17,199
yes one second here if i can find it

3359
01:57:21,030 --> 01:57:19,360
oh yeah there we go so everybody have a

3360
01:57:22,310 --> 01:57:21,040
great thanksgiving if i don't talk to

3361
01:57:25,270 --> 01:57:22,320
you tomorrow

3362
01:57:26,629 --> 01:57:25,280
uh we'll be back or no uh yeah never

3363
01:57:27,830 --> 01:57:26,639
mind we're you're gonna be back tomorrow

3364
01:57:31,350 --> 01:57:27,840
with the show

3365
01:57:33,270 --> 01:57:31,360
so i'm i lost the whole day somehow so

3366
01:57:34,550 --> 01:57:33,280
yeah please do make sure that you visit

3367
01:57:36,550 --> 01:57:34,560
just put

3368
01:57:38,229 --> 01:57:36,560
explaining esoteric in the search bar on

3369
01:57:39,669 --> 01:57:38,239
youtube and subscribe to her channel

3370
01:57:40,870 --> 01:57:39,679
she's got a lot of great shows if you

3371
01:57:42,070 --> 01:57:40,880
enjoyed tonight you're going to love her

3372
01:57:43,910 --> 01:57:42,080
channel because she talks about all this

3373
01:57:46,310 --> 01:57:43,920
strange esoteric stuff

3374
01:57:47,510 --> 01:57:46,320
and delves deep into it and does a great

3375
01:57:50,229 --> 01:57:47,520
job with it

3376
01:57:54,430 --> 01:57:50,239
thank you so uh good night friends god

3377
01:59:24,600 --> 01:58:45,430
[Music]